TR Air-Force EF Typhoon

[IC3M@N FX]

That is correct, but the Technology and Expertise we have acquired – both Software and Hardware – are based on US technology from the late 200Xs, the development of which was completed in Turkey in 2015 as part of the CCIP programme.
The Tranche 4 Eurofighter is already based on technology from the 2020s – both hardware and software – from the UK, Germany, Italy and Spain. This means that we have already reached the cutting edge of the Europeans’ 5th-Generation Technology without Stealth (Avionics, Communications, Radar, Sensorfusion etc.), at least as far as the Electronics and their Logic as a Fighter Aircraft are concerned, and how they define it. It will therefore serve as a Reference Platform (Benchmark) for the TAI KAAN.

Since the Tranche 2 P3Eb,
the Eurofighter has been a fully mature platform; with Tranches 3 and 4, it ranks among the world’s best 4.5+ generation fighter aircraft – probably ahead of the F-16, F-18, the Rafale and the SU-35S.

 

[Fatman17]

BAE Systems begins production of Turkish Eurofighter Typhoons

British workers have started building the first Eurofighter Typhoon jets Türkiye will actually fly, confirming a defense deal announced last October is now moving from paperwork into an actual factory floor. BAE Systems said manufacturing is already underway in the

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EFT production starts for TuAF

 

[Nutuk]

EF is in my opinion a severe investment that is not worth the money we pump in it.

The costs is not only the buying of the planes, we also have:
- to educate the pilots and ground crews
- adjust infrastructure
- buy a lot of weapons for these aircraft
- become partly dependent on EU nations


And for what? do we get them before 2030? NO! Deliveries are between 2030-32

It's a waste of valuable funds that can be better spend on Hurjet LCA / Kaan

 

[Pokemonte13]

EF is in my opinion a severe investment that is not worth the money we pump in it.

The costs is not only the buying of the planes, we also have:
- to educate the pilots and ground crews
- adjust infrastructure
- buy a lot of weapons for these aircraft
- become partly dependent on EU nations


And for what? do we get them before 2030? NO! Deliveries are between 2030-32

It's a waste of valuable funds that can be better spend on Hurjet LCA / Kaan

the investment depend on how many aircraft we will end up owning. There a huge fixed initial cost and variable cost if we were to buy the other 20 new aircraft the cost per airframe would go down and delivery would be before 2035 not to mention that Eurofighter will be more capable than any other jet in our inventory even kaan until it reaches full maturity. Hürjet LCA would only make sense once our F16 start leaving service or you want to prop up the numbers. Overall plan is still 400 manned platforms till 2040
230 F16
44-64 eurofighter
-+100 Kaan
Not enough room for LCA

 

[TR_123456]

the investment depend on how many aircraft we will end up owning. There a huge fixed initial cost and variable cost if we were to buy the other 20 new aircraft the cost per airframe would go down and delivery would be before 2035 not to mention that Eurofighter will be more capable than any other jet in our inventory even kaan until it reaches full maturity. Hürjet LCA would only make sense once our F16 start leaving service or you want to prop up the numbers. Overall plan is still 400 manned platforms till 2040
230 F16
44-64 eurofighter
-+100 Kaan
Not enough room for LCA

You sure about the F-16's till 2040?

 

[boredaf]

Hurjet LCA

You are overestimating the capabilities of Hürjet. It simply cannot replace F-16s or Eurofighter unless it is designed from ground up because it is first and foremost a trainer.

And, let's not forget, we don't have an engine for it, we don't even have an engine project for it and getting engines for a fighter jet would be harder than getting them for a trainer and make the entire plane dependent on others in the first place. Unless it is designed from scratch to use, perhaps, 2 TF10K, which would take too much time and too many resources for a questionable return.

 

[uçuyorum]

You are overestimating the capabilities of Hürjet. It simply cannot replace F-16s or Eurofighter unless it is designed from ground up because it is first and foremost a trainer.

And, let's not forget, we don't have an engine for it, we don't even have an engine project for it and getting engines for a fighter jet would be harder than getting them for a trainer and make the entire plane dependent on others in the first place. Unless it is designed from scratch to use, perhaps, 2 TF10K, which would take too much time and too many resources for a questionable return.

F404 acquisition likely wont be a problem since they gave us F110 for kaan now, for the time being at least.

 

[Nutuk]

There a huge fixed initial cost and variable cost if we were to buy the other 20 new aircraft the cost per airframe would go down and delivery would be before 2035 not to mention that Eurofighter will be more capable than any other jet in our inventory even kaan until it reaches full maturity.

Based on which assumption? I do not remember EF successes in major battles. Yes EF did some bombings over Iraq and Afganistan in coalition partner missions. But bombings are common for any fighter jet, nothing special.

When was the last time an EF shot another fighter jet out of the sky?

Eurofighter combat record:
No air-to-air combat against manned aircraft to date; has shot down several hostile drones (2024–26)

2011 Libya UK/Italy air to ground strike and reconnaissance only
2015 - 19 anti ISIS UK Precision air to ground strikes; no air to air combat
2024 - 25 drone defense UK destroyed several Iranian / Houthi drones


Sorry but EF combat record is very meager to say it will be better than the Kaan. I am not saying that it is a bad aircraft, maybe it did not get the chance to proof herself but everything points to that it is not worth the amount of resources we pour into this 4th generation jet while the rest of the world is pursuing 5th and 6th generation.