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If there is an EF-2000 agreement, IMO we will not undertake a indigenous ejection seat development project. We order the 300 seats as part of the EF-2000 package. On one condition, the seats will be delivered all at once, not gradually.
 

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The landing gear of the South Korean F-35 was hit by a bird, and the aircraft was retired, since the cost of repairs was more than the aircraft.
But what would happen if the bird hit the outer fuselage part designed to protect pilots?

Here are the high-speed bird impact tests of the Hürjet, Hürkuş and F-35

Nothing different than what might happen if the same thing happened to any other plane. Most of the damage on that Korean F-35 wasn't caused by the bird, it was caused by the fact that the pilot had to land the plane on its body instead of the landing gear.
 

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The landing gear of the South Korean F-35 was hit by a bird, and the aircraft was retired, since the cost of repairs was more than the aircraft.
But what would happen if the bird hit the outer fuselage part designed to protect pilots?

Here are the high-speed bird impact tests of the Hürjet, Hürkuş and F-35

It was most probably taken out of the inventory due to damage received by the belly landing the pilot did.
 

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It was most probably taken out of the inventory due to damage received by the belly landing the pilot did.
The belly landing was a result of the severe damages on F-35A due to an "eagle strike" mid-flight.
Shit happens, from 40 down to 39 stealth fighters. Possible deal for 25 more F-35As in the pipeline.

The F-35A on Jan. 4 ran into an eagle at an altitude of roughly 330 meters (1,082 feet), not long after taking off from the Cheongju Air Base in North Chungcheong.

The eagle was sucked into the fighter jet’s left air intake, damaging the hydraulic duct and power supply wiring that are essential to the navigation system and landing gear operation.
The aircraft had to make an emergency belly landing at the Seosan Air Base in South Chungcheong.

A joint inspection on the fighter jet with the manufacturer Lockheed Martin found 300 areas of damage, including in the engine and navigation system.


The fighter jet will be retired once the Joint Chief of Staff and the Defense Ministry give the final approval.

However, the Korean Air Force said the retired fighter jet could later be put to use in maintenance training.

 
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The belly landing was a result of the severe damages on F-35A due to an "eagle strike" mid-flight.
Shit happens, from 40 down to 39 stealth fighters. Possible deal for 25 more F-35As in the pipeline.



Thanks for this. Turkish twitter "media" is hell, they managed to get every detail wrong.
 

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The belly landing was a result of the severe damages on F-35A due to an "eagle strike" mid-flight.
Shit happens, from 40 down to 39 stealth fighters. Possible deal for 25 more F-35As in the pipeline.



I don't understand how a bird entering the air intake can damage hydraulics and wiring. Perhaps they are located behind the S-bend and the mass of the bird was too high for it to resist?
 

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-first of all This has nothing to do with South Korea

-This is more about our emotional reponse and we have to admit that Turks are a bit picky with negatives news about F 35 because of known reasons:devilish:

-Regardless
So what is the the argument, retirment of a fighter jet after a belly landing is the norm I guess? or F 35s are exceptions? :devilish:
 
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Nothing different than what might happen if the same thing happened to any other plane. Most of the damage on that Korean F-35 wasn't caused by the bird, it was caused by the fact that the pilot had to land the plane on its body instead of the landing gear.
That's like saying "he didn't die because he was shot, he died because he didn't have enough blood". Is every other jet's landing gear so weak that a bird can break it? I doubt it.
 

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That's like saying "he didn't die because he was shot, he died because he didn't have enough blood". Is every other jet's landing gear so weak that a bird can break it? I doubt it.
The explanation for the belly landing was not connected with the bird hitting the landing gear, according to what is written above. Mind you, if a bird is ingested into an air intake I would expect damage to be limited to the engine unless it failed catastrophically. But I'm not a designer or engineer.
 
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The explanation for the belly landing was not connected with the bird hitting the landing gear, according to what is written above. Mind you, if a bird is ingested into an air intake I would expect damage to be limited to the engine unless it failed catastrophically. But I'm not a designer or engineer.
Thanks for the correction. Most aircraft are indeed tested to withstand a bird strike into an engine. In the FAA certification standard it explicitly says this includes the inlets, so the F-35 design is flawed in that regard.
 

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According to other reports it was a 10kg Far Eastern sea eagle with 2m wingspan. A very fat bird so to speak 😁

F-35 has DSI air ducts which may have diverted the impacting bird to other important airframe parts before reaching the „cutting“ turbine blades and the fighter body is packed to the brim with electronics & hydraulics.

🦅 1 vs 🛩️ 0
 

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Jet Training and Light Attack Aircraft developed by our company; It is designed to play critical roles using its superior performance features with its single-engine, tandem cockpit and modern avionics suite. Hürjet; Its armed variant is an important element of power in battlefields with its wide mission range and superior payload capacity.

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@Cabatli_TR @Yasar @Anmdt There is a news that a textbed aircraft for Radar and avionics has arived???
Should be the old news for acquisition related with another admistration/agency but not SSB/MSB or TAI.
Cheap and low-rank defence industry newsletters are republishing done deals as if new and with the wrong interpretation.
 

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