TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Afif]

The Muslim world is plagued with self-inflicted backwardness, corruption, nepotism, illiteracy, intolerance, violence, unlawfulness and laziness. All these paranoid narratives of Western-Zionist conspiracy are lame excuses for own failures of a fallen Islamic civilization.

Only educated, hard-working people can create a strong country. Stop praying, start studying.

The only irony is, you are condemning the foreigners (and rightfully so) for lecturing Turks what to do about their country, while at the same time you are lecturing the 'whole Muslim world' what to do about themselves.

Let everyone figure out their own matters. Civilisation rise and fall and this is very natural.

 

[Chocopie]

Just calling out simple minded dudes, who believe religion is the universal cure to their societal ills. Unfortunately the Muslim world doesn‘t listen to me. Their loss

 

[Deliorman]

Can‘t understand these Erdogan fanboys from 3rd world countries mumbling about Islam here and Muslims there. Mostly from states with 55% literacy rate and 55 years life expectancy.

The foundation of Türkiye‘s modernization was Mustafa Kemal‘s vision of a new Turkish state: the adoption of Western science, education and technology, abolition of the Arab script for a higher literacy rate and introduction of strict laicism. And the most important part: national identity and pride. A good Turkish leader has to be a Turk first, a Turk second and a Turk third. Personal belief is a private matter.

The Muslim world is plagued with self-inflicted backwardness, corruption, nepotism, illiteracy, intolerance, violence, unlawfulness and laziness. All these paranoid narratives of Western-Zionist conspiracy are lame excuses for own failures of a fallen Islamic civilization.

Only educated, hard-working people can create a strong country. Stop praying, start studying.

If we make a statue of you a dozen trucks with concrete won't be enough just for your testicles bro. Now this is a post I sign bellow on 110%.

 

[Afif]

In his defense, he’s not lecturing simply stating facts

Stop praying, start studying.

 

[Afif]

Just calling out simple minded dudes, who believe religion is the universal cure to their societal ills. Unfortunately the Muslim world doesn‘t listen to me. Their loss

There is a right balance to everything, Even though most of the things you stated are true, one solution doesn't work for everybody.
And it is important to keep in mind, this so called Muslim world consist of variety of different cultures and ethnicities.
Neither all countries problems are the same.
Nor all of them are backward or 3rd world countries.
There are nations that are advancing relatively better.

It is each Muslim countries intellectuals job to figure out their own issues.

 

[Chocopie]

The Muslim world is plagued with self-inflicted backwardness, corruption, nepotism, illiteracy, intolerance, violence, unlawfulness and laziness. All these paranoid narratives of Western-Zionist conspiracy are lame excuses for own failures of a fallen Islamic civilization.

Only educated, hard-working people can create a strong country. Stop praying, start studying.

You haven‘t noticed the paragraph I deliberately set?

 

[Chocopie]

There is a right balance to everything, Even though most of the things you stated are true, one solution doesn't work for everybody.
And it is important to keep in mind, this so called Muslim world consist of variety of different cultures and ethnicities.
Neither all countries problems are the same.
Nor all of them are backward or 3rd world countries.
There are nations that are advancing relatively better.

It is each Muslim countries intellectuals job to figure out their own issues.

That I‘m aware of. Successful countries with major muslim populations like Türkiye, Malaysia and Indonesia are rare exceptions to the rule.

Filthy rich Gulf monarchies bath in their petrodollars in debauchery but bring not much on the table for the betterment of mankind.

 

[Bozan]

I doubt the authenticity of the leak for now, but this is pretty funny. Ukraine was going to arm and provide anti drone air defence systems and training to the SDF in return for the SDF performing clandestine operations against Russia.

Turkey was aware of it and had asked Ukraine to use the SDF and not the SNA in the first place, hoping for Russian blowback against the SDF.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1649148958252363789

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/20/russia-ukraine-war-syria-attacks/

 

[what]

@ADMusa I suggest you get familiar with the rules of this forum, otherwise your stay will be a brief one.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Can‘t understand these Erdogan fanboys from 3rd world countries mumbling about Islam here and Muslims there. Mostly from states with 55% literacy rate and 55 years life expectancy.

The foundation of Türkiye‘s modernization was Mustafa Kemal‘s vision of a new Turkish state: the adoption of Western science, education and technology, abolition of the Arab script for a higher literacy rate and introduction of strict laicism. And the most important part: national identity and pride. A good Turkish leader has to be a Turk first, a Turk second and a Turk third. Personal belief is a private matter.

The Muslim world is plagued with self-inflicted backwardness, corruption, nepotism, illiteracy, intolerance, violence, unlawfulness and laziness. All these paranoid narratives of Western-Zionist conspiracy are lame excuses for own failures of a fallen Islamic civilization.

Only educated, hard-working people can create a strong country. Stop praying, start studying.

And this is said from someone who is first German and second S korean ?
Everyone on planet knows that Turkiye is majority muslim country that even made others muslim in europe and balkans .
U like it or not Turkiye is created by those muslims from Alparslan to Osman gazi , Mehmet Fatih , Sulejman sulltan etc etc
SInce majority of Turks still accept Islam as their religion , u and others should shut the mouth up and see your your problem . Islam is not USA and Zionism show to you that is like in afganistan thats like showing Christianity in europe is like in Africa Zimbabwe so dont make fool comparasion with other countries .

 

[Tornadoss]

And this is said from someone who is first German and second S korean ?
Everyone on planet knows that Turkiye is majority muslim country that even made others muslims in europe and balkans .
U like it or not Turkiye is created by those muslims from Alparslan to Osman gazi , Mehmet Fatih , Sulejman sulltan etc etc
SInce majority of Turks still accept Islam as their religion , u and others should shut the mouth up and see your your problem . Islam is not USA and Zionism show to you that is like in afganistan thats like showing Christianity in europe is like in Africa Zimbabwe so dont make fool comparasion with other countries .

Yeah it's not the real Islam in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia, right?

 

[Sanchez]

I doubt the authenticity of the leak for now, but this is pretty funny. Ukraine was going to arm and provide anti drone air defence systems and training to the SDF in return for the SDF performing clandestine operations against Russia.

Turkey was aware of it and had asked Ukraine to use the SDF and not the SNA in the first place, hoping for Russian blowback against the SDF.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1649148958252363789

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/20/russia-ukraine-war-syria-attacks/

Turkey just chiming in, giving a heads up after saying "we know you're doing this" and asking them to do it from YPG areas instead of FSA areas is just funny to me

 

[Oublious]

Soon we will need a thread like 'Gulf-Iraq-Turkiye-Europe, international logistics and energy corridor | Developments and News'. There is a will between Iraq and Turkiye to revitalize this shared vision. This consensus has been reinforced by the recent visit of the highest level delegation from Iraq. We will see important steps following days.

One of the main asymmetric threats to this vision was the existence of the PKK.

Ad some pipeline to...

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Yeah it's not the real Islam in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia, right?

No its real but is mixed with their clan cultural rules like here in balkan we aslo have our own cultural differencies with other muslims . They just poor and can easy go to extreme religion that Quran itself speek about it .
Why west dont show Islam like in Dubai , istanbul , Doha , Astana , sarajevo , Kuala Lampur ? while their religion always show the best lifestyle of italy france like christian coutries while most christian live in poor South america with big mafia and gangs killing each other while in extreme Africa christian live with lions and hyenas with spears in hands but when someone mention christianity they always think about europe and never about africa ,S america while always the opposite for Muslim Countries ?!

 

[Ryder]

Yeah it's not the real Islam in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia, right?

Better than Czech Republic thats for sure

 

[Chocopie]

And this is said from someone who is first German and second S korean ?
Everyone on planet knows that Turkiye is majority muslim country that even made others muslims in europe and balkans .
U like it or not Turkiye is created by those muslims from Alparslan to Osman gazi , Mehmet Fatih , Sulejman sulltan etc etc
SInce majority of Turks still accept Islam as their religion , u and others should shut the mouth up and see your your problem . Islam is not USA and Zionism show to you that is like in afganistan thats like showing Christianity in europe is like in Africa Zimbabwe so dont make fool comparasion with other countries .

So, and you‘re first Albanian and second Turk? Dude, as if nobody knows that Turks are dominantly muslim. I was posting about Türkiye Cumhuriyeti and not the Ottoman Empire.

But as you said: not my country, not my business. The same goes for your foreign muslim brothers scribbling dumb conspiracy storys here ㅋㅋㅋ

 

[what]

Foreign Policy and geopolitics only from here on.
And everyone is free to share their opinions, as long as the rules are followed.

 

[Fairon]

Turkey just chiming in, giving a heads up after saying "we know you're doing this" and asking them to do it from YPG areas instead of FSA areas is just funny to me

Use YPG, we are totally fine. Here take couple of TB2 on the house.

-MIT probably.

 

[Heartbang]

Turkey just chiming in, giving a heads up after saying "we know you're doing this" and asking them to do it from YPG areas instead of FSA areas is just funny to me

Use YPG, we are totally fine. Here take couple of TB2 on the house.

-MIT probably.

I don't get it the logic behind that move

 

[Sanchez]

They suggest that YPG areas being used for Ukrainian attacks on Russian positions would lead to a clash between Russians and YPG and possibly SAA. Russians hitting YPG while we just sat back and watch would certainly be worthwhile.