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Tying Turkiye to Europe has been a disaster ever since the Tanzminat reforms.

Turkiye should also withdraw from uefa.

We should mainly place ourselves in Asia.

But nah the highers ups with obessesion with Europe this and that. Now we see the consequences.
 

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Turkiye-EU relationship is like a way of forced marriage. Neither wants to be together anymore but nobody puts into words...
I think we should end this journey and look at our own way.
 

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Turkiye-EU relationship is like a way of forced marriage. Neither wants to be together anymore but nobody puts into words...
I think we should end this journey and look at our own way.

One of the most toxic relationships in geo political history.
 

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Turkiye-EU relationship is like a way of forced marriage. Neither wants to be together anymore but nobody puts into words...
I think we should end this journey and look at our own way.
One of the most toxic relationships in geo political history.
Just for dont be alone.

If Not with Eu We have to with Arabs...

The Turkic world is too weak.
 

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Just for dont be alone.

If Not with Eu We have to with Arabs...

The Turkic world is too weak.

We can trade and hold relations with both worlds but we also need to draw a line.

We aint apart of Europe neither are we apart of the Arab World.

I agree the Turkic World is weak as fck. It will take centuries to build up our own bloc.
 

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We can trade and hold relations with both worlds but we also need to draw a line.

We aint apart of Europe neither are we apart of the Arab World.

I agree the Turkic World is weak as fck. It will take centuries to build up our own bloc.
Keep on the bid with EU seems have some economic benefit

Turkey receives payments from the EU budget as pre-accession support, currently 4.5 billion allocated for the 2014–2020 period (about 740 million Euros per year) and some others.

But that s bad to our mind.

Pro-EU and Pro-Arab Turks fight each other every day.

Modernization is not Europeanization
Islam is not Arabization

But they keep confusing the two
 

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Actally Balkan are not Europe too.

The difference between Bulgaria and Germany is larger than with Turkiye.
 

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Keep on the bid with EU seems have some economic benefit

Turkey receives payments from the EU budget as pre-accession support, currently 4.5 billion allocated for the 2014–2020 period (about 740 million Euros per year) and some others.

But that s bad to our mind.

Pro-EU and Pro-Arab Turks fight each other every day.

Modernization is not Europeanization
Islam is not Arabization

But they keep confusing the two

I cant blame them to be honest the Euro is a pretty strong currency.
 

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I cant blame them to be honest the Euro is a pretty strong currency.
We are in weaker position,Economically and promotionally

Every rumors that we drop EU will be reported as we became Sharia law country.Every time Erdogan say anything to EU results Lira and our economy fall

It's ironic that Westerners keep speaking up for communist China
 

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We are in weaker position,Economically and promotionally

Every rumors that we drop EU will be reported as we became Sharia law country.Every time Erdogan say anything to EU results Lira and our economy fall

It's ironic that Westerners keep speaking up for communist China

The West propped up China against the Soviet Union.

Turkiye position has always been weaker regardless of Erdogan or not.

EU basically saying give up your interests and Sovreignty to become apart of the EU which means basically giving up Cyprus and the Caucausus which ever places you have interests.

I doubt Turkiye will ever give up Northern Cyprus.

Cyprus easily got into the EU with the most fraudulent bs on the table.

Brexit happened because the British refused to hand over complete control to the EU.

EU is also set introduce the most draoconian laws in trying to impose electric on its population.

Is the EU political or economic. Main aim was always economic cooperation now that was thrown out the window especially regarding Turkiye.
 

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The West propped up China against the Soviet Union.

Turkiye position has always been weaker regardless of Erdogan or not.

EU basically saying give up your interests and Sovreignty to become apart of the EU which means basically giving up Cyprus and the Caucausus which ever places you have interests.

I doubt Turkiye will ever give up Northern Cyprus.

Cyprus easily got into the EU with the most fraudulent bs on the table.

Brexit happened because the British refused to hand over complete control to the EU.

EU is also set introduce the most draoconian laws in trying to impose electric on its population.

Is the EU political or economic. Main aim was always economic cooperation now that was thrown out the window especially regarding Turkiye.
Turkey will not give up interests and Sovreignty to join EU but also cant say that break up or give up join EU

So this situation will continue until we have the enough economy position
 

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The West propped up China against the Soviet Union.

Turkiye position has always been weaker regardless of Erdogan or not.

EU basically saying give up your interests and Sovreignty to become apart of the EU which means basically giving up Cyprus and the Caucausus which ever places you have interests.

I doubt Turkiye will ever give up Northern Cyprus.

Cyprus easily got into the EU with the most fraudulent bs on the table.

Brexit happened because the British refused to hand over complete control to the EU.

EU is also set introduce the most draoconian laws in trying to impose electric on its population.

Is the EU political or economic. Main aim was always economic cooperation now that was thrown out the window especially regarding Turkiye.
I meant Erodgan s speech(which to please some arabs and some his supporters) damage our economy because our position is weak in ,Economically and promotionally

He can only get some vote from those words.
 

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Patriarch of Constantinople has no political jurisdiction.

Which means they shouldnt even be visiting political leaders or going on international political trips with Turkish tax paying money. They can only visit spiritual heads or their followers.

This man is under Turkish jurisdiction which means he cant hang his own flag but only Turkiye's flag.

Cihat Yayci planning on taking him to court for violating the Turkish consitution.

Will Tayyip Erdogan and Supreme Turkish court back Yayci or will they chicken out break Turkish constitution law?

Another failure in foreign policy if you have your religious heads visiting political leaders with their own flags and thinking they own a country.

If Erdogan allows this pass then he shouldnt even be talking about law and order.
 

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Why we have to feed them by tax
Do we? Culture ministry repairs some very old churches from time to time. Apart from that, i'm not aware of any taxes going towards them. They have their own vakıfs which oversee the land and buildings they own like churches and schools.

By how the Greek Orthodox Turkish population fares, in two generations he won't have a replacement anyhow.
 

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Do we? Culture ministry repairs some very old churches from time to time. Apart from that, i'm not aware of any taxes going towards them. They have their own vakıfs which oversee the land and buildings they own like churches and schools.

By how the Greek Orthodox Turkish population fares, in two generations he won't have a replacement anyhow.

Patriarch acts like as of he owns a vatican city.

Who allows him to visit political leaders in the first place?

Diyanet is not allowed at all. Why is the Patriarch given this right?

His a turkish citizen and his under Turkish jurisdiction. Which means also he has to represent the Turkish flag.

Visiting foreign leaders is for the President, Vice president and Foreign affairs minister.
 

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What greek Turkish population ?

Greek had their own church since 19ceutury.This guy only have 100k followers gibi

The Church of Greece (Greek: Ἐκκλησία τῆς Ἑλλάδος, romanized: Ekklēsía tē̂s Helládos, IPA: [ekliˈsi.a tis eˈlaðos]), part of the wider Greek Orthodox Church, is one of the autocephalous churches which make up the communion of Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Its canonical territory is confined to the borders of Greece prior to the Balkan Wars of 1912–1913 ("Old Greece"), with the rest of Greece (the "New Lands", Crete, and the Dodecanese) being subject to the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople. However, most of the dioceses of the Metropolises of the New Lands are de facto administered as part of the Church of Greece for practical reasons, under an agreement between the churches of Athens and Constantinople. The primate of the Church of Greece is the archbishop of Athens and All Greece.
Greek Orthodox Turkish population that lives in Turkey. Actually some parishes in the north like that of Finland and Estonia do fall under the Istanbul one.

Relationship between the church of Athens and Istanbul is complex. Athenian church claims autonomy, but still recognizes the Constantinople/Istanbul one as superior.

Patriarch acts like as of he owns a vatican city.

Who allows him to visit political leaders in the first place?

Diyanet is not allowed at all. Why is the Patriarch given this right?

His a turkish citizen and his under Turkish jurisdiction. Which means also he has to represent the Turkish flag.

Visiting foreign leaders is for the President, Vice president and Foreign affairs minister.
I think you need to raise this with MFA. Do you really think that Bartholomew is doing all this for years without government acceptance or approval?
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