TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Afif]

While I completely agree, I wish that we will soon get rid of this made-up terminology that we use as 'Azerbaijanis'. There is no such thing as Azerbaijanis, Azerbaijan is a geographical characterization formed from the combination of two words, and Azerbaijani actually means Khazarian. One of the biggest daggers to the Turkish national consciousness during the Soviet Russian era was the changing of the alphabets of all central Asian Turks against Ataturk's policy of alphabet unity, which was followed by indoctrination in the schools of Turkish cities with fabricated false historical theses.

Won't that require changing the State's name itself? Afaik, no country has ever done that.

 

[Ryder]

While I completely agree, I wish that we will soon get rid of this made-up terminology that we use as 'Azerbaijanis'. There is no such thing as Azerbaijanis, Azerbaijan is a geographical characterization formed from the combination of two words, and Azerbaijani actually means Khazarian. One of the biggest daggers to the Turkish national consciousness during the Soviet Russian era was the changing of the alphabets of all central Asian Turks against Ataturk's policy of alphabet unity, which was followed by indoctrination in the schools of Turkish cities with fabricated false historical theses.

We are all Turks. Nothing wrong in using terms like Turkish, Azerbaijani, Kazakh, Kyrgz, Yakut, Salar, Uygur, Qashqai, Afsar, Turkmen and Uzbek.

They are all Turks but just think of it as branches of a big family.

We also have to remember the reason why Russian influence is strong in the Caucasus and Central Asia because the Russians ruled region for like 100+ years hence why they use the Cyrillic alphabet and many speaking Russian alongside their own languages.

You also have lots of Turkic peoples living inside what is now Russia.

 

[dBSPL]

We are all Turks. Nothing wrong in using terms like Turkish, Azerbaijani, Kazakh, Kyrgz, Yakut, Salar, Uygur, Qashqai, Afsar, Turkmen and Uzbek.

They are all Turks but just think of it as branches of a big family.

We also have to remember the reason why Russian influence is strong in the Caucasus and Central Asia because the Russians ruled region for like 100+ years hence why they use the Cyrillic alphabet and many speaking Russian alongside their own languages.

You also have lots of Turkic peoples living inside what is now Russia.

The distinction between Turkic and Turkish is a terminology coined in foreign literature to identify the Turks living in Turkiye and the Turks of the Caspian and Asian regions as distinct nations, mostly originating from Russian Turkologists. When Turkic people is used, it is possible to create sub-national lineages within it, and the same sources also invented a nation called Azerbaijanis. They even went further to present the Azerbaijanis as Turkicized Iranians. There is nothing in what I have said to offend you, I think it is a mistake. You cannot destroy this false fiction by accepting the concepts and definitions you are fighting against.

 

[Ryder]

The distinction between Turkic and Turkish is a terminology coined in foreign literature to identify the Turks living in Turkiye and the Turks of the Caspian and Asian regions as distinct nations, mostly originating from Russian Turkologists. When Turkic people is used, it is possible to create sub-national lineages within it, and the same sources also invented a nation called Azerbaijanis. They even went further to present the Azerbaijanis as Turkicized Iranians. There is nothing in what I have said to offend you, I think it is a mistake. You cannot destroy this false fiction by accepting the concepts and definitions you are fighting against.

Us Turks are a oral culture rather than a written culture.

Hence why most things about us in history always came from our enemies like the Chinese, Arabs, Europeans, Iranians and the Russians.

You do make a case of Russian Turkologists who used terms to divide the Turks with each new term. Which makes sense as most of those Russian Turkologists were funded by the Tsars and the Soviets.

I still do believe we can use these terms as long as they are not negative or denying anybodys identity and heritage.

 

[Iskander]

Round two. Group calling itself "1000 Youths for Palestine" protesting against Azerbaijan in Azerbaijani consulate in Istanbul.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1751210937867018343

During the 30 years of Armenian occupation, not a single Arab state helped us with a single bullet. And all this time Palestine supported only the aggressor - Armenia. By the way, Lebanon too. They sheltered the Armenian terrorist organization ASALA. 3 years ago, during the 44-day war in Karabakh, they attacked our embassy in Beirut, supporting the Armenians. Now let their Armenian “Christian brothers” help them.

 

[Scott Summers]

Iranian saboteurs nothing else.

They dont care about Palestine and they dont care about Azerbaijan.

Palestine is Sunni do the Iranians think they will sacrifice themselves for Sunnis.

Azerbaijan is majority Twelver Shia same the religion which Iran follows still Iran chose Armenia over Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijan rejected being a Iranian proxy and rejected Iran stoking the flames of secratarianism. Azerbaijan has a 20% Sunni population now imagine if Azerbaijan became another secratrian wrecked hell hole like Lebanon, Syria and Iraq.

Azerbaijanis are Turkic. Iran has lots of Turkic peoples. This is what both Secular Iranians and Mullah rum Iranians fear a Turkic uprising.

Azerbaijan and its relations with Israel is just geopolitics. Both have interests that converg and work for both parties. As many Azerbaijani posters here said the Azerbaijani Jews are pretty patriotic about their country hence why became a bridge between both countries.

This is exactly why i think that the inner circle of the Ayatollahs and the high command of the IRGC arent muslims or even Shia.

Because a real Shia would never support a Christian country against another Shia.

Iran should be the best friend of Azerbaijan. They are both Shia and neighbours. There is even a province in Iran called Azerbaijan.

If the Ayatollahs were real, than the brotherhood between Iran-Azerbaijan would be just so strong as the brotherhood between Turkey and Azerbaijan, because in the Islam, religion is higher than race.

But Iran does not think that way. They are racialists and see themselves as a Persian Republic or Persian Empire, not as a Islamic theocracy.

They see the Azerbaijanians as Turks and dont give a damn about their common Shia religion. They have better relations with Tajikistan, another Persian country, despite they are mostly Sunni's.

 

[Ryder]

This is exactly why i think that the inner circle of the Ayatollahs and the high command of the IRGC arent muslims or even Shia.

Because a real Shia would never support a Christian country against another Shia.

Iran should be the best friend of Azerbaijan. They are both Shia and neighbours. There is even a province in Iran called Azerbaijan.

If the Ayatollahs were real, than the brotherhood between Iran-Azerbaijan would be just so strong as the brotherhood between Turkey and Azerbaijan, because in the Islam, religion is higher than race.

But Iran does not think that way. They are racialists and see themselves as a Persian Republic or Persian Empire, not as a Islamic theocracy.

They see the Azerbaijanians as Turks and dont give a damn about their common Shia religion. They have better relations with Tajikistan, another Persian country, despite they are mostly Sunni's.

When the Iranian Paramilitaries were gunning down Southern Azerbaijanis.

It mainly cricket noises when the Persian secularists, Persian liberals, Persian monarchists like those idiot shah supporters. Imagine supporting a failed monarchy.

The Persian disaspora are racist to the core they were perfectly fine with the Basji gunning down Azerbaijanis in Tabriz.

People think a Secular Iran is better but deep down regardless if its Ayatollah run Iran or a Secular Iran. Persian supremacism runs deep in the society.

When the Ayatollah regime collapses with Secular Iran taking its place they will just continue where they left off except the West will back them even more.

Dont be surprised if Turkiye and Iran still come to blows.

 

[Asena_great]

During the 30 years of Armenian occupation, not a single Arab state helped us with a single bullet. And all this time Palestine supported only the aggressor - Armenia. By the way, Lebanon too. They sheltered the Armenian terrorist organization ASALA. 3 years ago, during the 44-day war in Karabakh, they attacked our embassy in Beirut, supporting the Armenians. Now let their Armenian “Christian brothers” help them.

dont take them seriously these are none turks who are trying to ruin our relationship. i posted how Palestinians recondnsied the so called Armenian geocide , uploaded a picture of Turkish Cypriot mother brutality murdered in bathtub with her 3 children and how Palestinians supported that then i show how Palestinians supported Russians when they kick Crimean Tatars out of their homes and settle Russians in those houses as well as how Palestinians supported china when they were doing geocide against Uyghurs then i uploaded a picture from ASALA attack on ankara airport by an Armenian who was trained by Palestinians who gun down 81 people. in the end i upload picture of dead children from khojaly geocide and how Palestinians called that a just war against Azerbaijan. do you know what they did ?? they just pretend that my post didn't exist and keep uploading twitters in support of Palestinians

with what Palestinians did, it is well with in Azerbaijan's right to support Israel even if it wasn't for geopolitical need , but rather for revenge for Palestinians past actions​

 

[Asena_great]

Protests are allowed regardless.
Unlike the selective ones in the west!

yeah but unlike west, at pelikan group's request we throwing nationalist journalist who report on Syrian and afghans crime against Turkish citizens into jail what a freedom

 

[Asena_great]

So what?

Isis has created so many non existent Wilayas which they believe they will rule. Funny how westerners take it literally. Isis even claims Azerbaijan as a wilayah.

Islamic state collapses many of its fighters either deserted or scattered. Some turned into insurgency. But the African ones are a threat as we can see how they are growing in the sahel. I do believe they dont answer to Isis of Iraq and Syria basically operate in their own accord.

A lot of them are all foreigners that are holed up in Turkiye. They just have to be caught one by one.

according to sinan oğan we have 13 million illegal aliens in turkey 2 million of them fought in a conflict (wars/civil wars)

according to Erlik there are 27 million illegal (kaçak) guns in turkey and the case of right to self defense with guns need to be consider. this is a nightmare becouse even after 12 eylül coupe when army gathered all the illegal guns from the people that number didn't pass 500k now we are dealing with 27 million illegal (kaçak) guns and 2 million millitant jihadist from all over the world while TSK personal is 700k. thats why both Osman Pamukoğlu and ümit özdağ call to increase the years of military service as well as abolishing selling the service

according to ümit özdağ in the last 2 years the number of operation against salafi and jihadis passes the number of operation against PKK which shows the number 1 terror problem of turkey is no longer PKK but islamist terrorist which btw you were very found of them last year when i uploaded their video harassing our citizens and making islamic/ sharia propaganda, thanks to people like you, we are about to become second Syria in the next 5 to 10 years

 

[Fuzuli NL]

yeah but unlike west, at pelikan group's request we throwing nationalist journalist who report on Syrian and afghans crime against Turkish citizens into jail what a freedom

Yeah, we're the worst!

 

[Asena_great]

Yeah, we're the worst!

i wont go that far we are still better then middle eastern countries but worst then west

 

[Fuzuli NL]

i wont go that far we are still better then middle eastern countries but worst then west

Oh, thank you.

 

[Bozan]

The Niger Coup and Turkey’s Military Industrial Complex in Africa - Middle East Institute

www.mei.edu

Turkey has been conducting mining operations in Niger.

The security? According to rumours, sending Turkmen from Syria

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1741374417639190531

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720811750071652460

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1741402666499027013

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720817141367058909

 

[Scott Summers]

Very good. Africans like Turks very much because of our Ottoman history and our kindness and just approach - they never saw us as colonialists like the Arabs see us.

The AKP invested heavily in Africa since 2002 and we are getting the fruits now.

If the African nations could transfer their gold from the French Central Bank to the Turkish Central Bank, then we have jackpot.

 

[Bozan]

Very good. Africans like Turks very much because of our Ottoman history and our kindness and just approach - they never saw us as colonialists like the Arabs see us.

The AKP invested heavily in Africa since 2002 and we are getting the fruits now.

If the African nations could transfer their gold from the French Central Bank to the Turkish Central Bank, then we have jackpot.

I am personally against it as it destroys the fabric of Turkmen existence in north Syria. Want to feed your family ? Risk it in Africa or migrate to TR. It is like taking advantage of a poor population.

But then again, it's not like they are used to fight Assad anyway and there is no industry or economy in north Syria to make a living.

 

[Scott Summers]

I am personally against it as it destroys the fabric of Turkmen existence in north Syria. Want to feed your family ? Risk it in Africa or migrate to TR. It is like taking advantage of a poor population.

But then again, it's not like they are used to fight Assad anyway and there is no industry or economy in north Syria to make a living.

No i mean the overall Turkish investments in Africa since 2002 (construction, mining, infrastructure), not only this case in Niger where Turkmens are involved.

 

[Sanchez]

NEW: Erdogan plans to meet Egypt’s Sisi in Cairo for the first time in 12 years on Valentine’s Day, sources tell me.

Erdogan might visit Rafah if Sisi looks favourable to the idea to support Palestinians in time of their need

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1752704848603361781

 

[Afif]

NEW: Erdogan plans to meet Egypt’s Sisi in Cairo for the first time in 12 years on Valentine’s Day, sources tell me.

Erdogan might visit Rafah if Sisi looks favourable to the idea to support Palestinians in time of their need

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1752704848603361781

On Valentine's day? What is he up to?

 

[Sanchez]

On Valentine's day? What is he up to?

Rekindling old flames?