TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Sanchez]

McCaul open to selling F-16s to Turkey — even if Erdoğan wins​

McCaul open to selling F-16s to Turkey — even if Erdoğan wins

That’s a major shift for the chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and his change from “no” to “yes” makes the arms sale that much closer to reality.

www.politico.com

"Rep. GREGORY MEEKS (D-N.Y.), HFAC’s top Democrat, has broader conditions than McCaul, and they include Ankara halting its belligerence toward Greece, which could come after the election ends.

“As of right now, I’m not in favor of the F-16 sales to Turkey,” Meeks said. “I want those elections to be resolved, and then I have to see some action from Turkey. Absent that action, I’m against it. And blocking Sweden is one of those actions that I’m looking to see — is one — and there are some others.”

That aligns Meeks, roughly, with SFRC Chair BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.), who repeats that Turkey (read: Erdoğan) must radically shift its foreign policy before delivery. It’s not only the Sweden issue for him, but also ending aggression toward Greece — a fellow NATO ally — ceasing support for Azerbaijan against Armenia and releasing journalists and dissidents from prison."

 

[GoatsMilk]

McCaul open to selling F-16s to Turkey — even if Erdoğan wins

That’s a major shift for the chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and his change from “no” to “yes” makes the arms sale that much closer to reality.

www.politico.com

"Rep. GREGORY MEEKS (D-N.Y.), HFAC’s top Democrat, has broader conditions than McCaul, and they include Ankara halting its belligerence toward Greece, which could come after the election ends.

“As of right now, I’m not in favor of the F-16 sales to Turkey,” Meeks said. “I want those elections to be resolved, and then I have to see some action from Turkey. Absent that action, I’m against it. And blocking Sweden is one of those actions that I’m looking to see — is one — and there are some others.”

That aligns Meeks, roughly, with SFRC Chair BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.), who repeats that Turkey (read: Erdoğan) must radically shift its foreign policy before delivery. It’s not only the Sweden issue for him, but also ending aggression toward Greece — a fellow NATO ally — ceasing support for Azerbaijan against Armenia and releasing journalists and dissidents from prison."

Whats the point in having f16's if we cannot use them to pursue our geopolitical interests.

Here Turks give up on all regional interests and we will give you overpriced weapons with all sorts of conditions attached that you cannot use anyway.

So we must conclude that they are just finding any excuse hinder our defence.

One thing i would really like to see the Turkish defence industry do is break this western manipulation trick they use over weapons. When we sell weapons to other nations, the only condition should be that they cannot be used against us or sold to nations that could use them against us.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Whats the point in having f16's if we cannot use them to pursue our geopolitical interests.

Here Turks give up on all regional interests and we will give you overpriced weapons with all sorts of conditions attached that you cannot use anyway.

So we must conclude that they are just finding any excuse hinder our defence.

And they're still acting as if F-16s are some wonder weapon. Fuck those planes, and keep going with KAAN.

 

[GoatsMilk]

And they're still acting as if F-16s are some wonder weapon. Fuck those planes, and keep going with KAAN.

They had a good excuse that they could use to bullshit Turks with the s400 purchase for why they couldnt get F35.

But now all the excuses to not sell F16 basically just shows the USA sees Turkiye as an enemy and they use these instruments as merely manipulation tools.

If when it comes to KAAN and the americans decide to place an embargo against us over the engines, at that point will have to ask ourselves what is the point in being in NATO and is it time for the american bases to be closed down and shipped out to greece or their pkkistan state in iraq instead.

 

[Heartbang]

what is the point in being in NATO

The point of being in nato is to protect ourselves from nato.

 

[GoatsMilk]

The point of being in nato is to protect ourselves from nato.

unfortunately. What a shitty relationship. Terrible to be in it but a nightmare to be outside it.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

unfortunately. What a shitty relationship. Terrible to be in it but a nightmare to be outside it.

That's why I always advocate for Türkiye to have those fucking Nukes. Being in this situation and not having nukes is utterly wrong.

 

[Heartbang]

That's why I always advocate for Türkiye to have those fucking Nukes.

Yes, definitely

 

[dBSPL]

I think difficult part is not the developing warhead to trigger the reaction, for us. There will be no need to even discuss these after we draw a circle from our borders up to 8K kilometres away.

 

[Anastasius]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661847504965578754

Haha

Yeah, he says this every other month while stabbing Putin in the back with the other.

 

[Sanchez]

Türkiye and Greece decided to mutually cancel their planned naval exercises. Türkiye canceled the Denizkurdu and Greece canceled the Kataigis exercises.

Türkiye Denizkurdu'nu, Yunanistan Kataigis'i iptal etti

Türkiye ve Yunanistan, planlı deniz tatbikatlarını iptal etme kararı aldı. Türkiye, Deniz Kurdu'nu; Yunanistan ise Kataigis tatbikatlarını iptal etti.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Couldn't see an official announcement from either side yet. Denizkurdu 23 was announced at the beginning of may. Greek media written on its cancellation on may 27. No info on Kataigis 23. It's a yearly exercise but it was never announced for this year from the Greek MoD or media as per gpogle searches.

 

[Fairon]

Shame. As far as i know first Deniz Kurdu drill was the first drill that Turkish Navy challenged the world. It wasn't just against Greece but showing the TN capabilities to the world.

Maybe we postponed it to integrate Anadolu to the drills and hope it won't be cancelled permanently.

 

[Heartbang]

Looks like your regular garden variety good will gesture.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1664077367667757058

 

[GoatsMilk]

Looks like your regular garden variety good will gesture.

showing greeks good will is as useful as showing russians goodwill.

 

[Heartbang]

showing greeks good will is as useful as showing russians goodwill.

So true.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1664315286567231491

 

[TheInsider]

Sad. We should have at least put up a fight till the US elections.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665341677630894081

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665341677630894081

Dont forget how the Russians in the past steamrolled the Swedes

Hopefully somebody baits the Russian bear so those Nordic countries get what they deserve.