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Article hints these protestors against SOCAR is just the beginning

Poster says "Two nations, One Betrayal"

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Good, they should continue protesting. By the end of this decade, Islamists will find themselves in a corner.

Recently, a bunch of Central Asian nations have cracked down on Islamists. It's only a matter of time until Türkiye does the same.

Their ideology is pure cancer, if you allow it to spread it will destroy your country. Look at Afghanistan and Pakistan. Look at how the US supported Islamists in Syria who ended up destroying the country and allowing the establishment of a PKK controlled zone.

Even Saudi Arabia has started to dial back on Islam.

I don't know for how long we can continue to ignore this threat.
 

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Azerbaijan can deal with anybody they like.

Its geopolitics, its business.

Nothing personal.

These pro Palestine protestors are really trying their best to pull back my support.

They are becoming more of a nuisance.
 

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Azerbaijan also supports Palestine.
Be somewhat critical of what you read.
If your idea is to spoil (bozmak ;)) Azerbaijan-Turkey relations, don't try in vain, dear BOZAN! :)

C'mon I'm not spoiling anything from a post on this forum

The author: Bahruz Samadov is a PhD candidate in political science at Charles University in Prague.

Also, Aliyev is going to do an Erdogan.

In early 2024, Aliyev mentioned the need for a fresh “national ideology - he will go down a rabbit hole of anti-west rhetoric and form strong bonds with Russia, China and other illiberal states. There is no national struggle for territorial integrity anymore, he needs a new fight to keep the people in line
 

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What makes these people islamists in your eyes?
Calling your country “traitor” for one(“2 states, 1 treason”), would make many think that you place other stuff like your religion buddies or other states before you. They’re fifth columnists. Everybody can follow their own ideology and belief systems but nation must come first. If it doesn’t for them, what good are they for the nation?
 

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C'mon I'm not spoiling anything from a post on this forum

The author: Bahruz Samadov is a PhD candidate in political science at Charles University in Prague.

Also, Aliyev is going to do an Erdogan.

In early 2024, Aliyev mentioned the need for a fresh “national ideology - he will go down a rabbit hole of anti-west rhetoric and form strong bonds with Russia, China and other illiberal states. There is no national struggle for territorial integrity anymore, he needs a new fight to keep the people in line
“We have one family - the Turkic states! We don't need any other family."

This is what Aliyev said. This is our national idea. For me, as a supporter of Turan (the cultural, political and military unity of the Turk states), this is the most important thing.
And what some Samadov from Prague writes is not interesting to me.
Regarding the “bridle”. Where did you read this? Have you been reading all sorts of Financial Times again this morning? :) Or its cousin, The New York Times?
Feel free to check out the Canadian, Australian and New Zealand Times! They all write the same thing, protecting first of all their national interests.
And those who disagree with them are denigrated, portrayed as savages, dictators and cannibals.

80% of people do not have very developed critical thinking, so they probably believe in all sorts of Times.
Of the remaining 20%, few people know what continent Azerbaijan is on.
Our opinion is known to only a few who... they simply don’t care!
Well, since they don’t care, what can we do except not pay attention to them or don’t care like them.
Peoples are different.
And their interests are different. Is this difficult to understand?
Do you really think that all of Europe will suddenly get excited about the idea of Turan?!
 
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“We have one family - the Turkic states! We don't need any other family."

This is what Aliyev said. This is our national idea. For me, as a supporter of Turan (the cultural, political and military unity of the Turk states), this is the most important thing.
And what some Samadov from Prague writes is not interesting to me.
Regarding the “bridle”. Where did you read this? Have you been reading all sorts of Financial Times again this morning? Or its cousin, The New York Times?
Feel free to check out the Canadian, Australian and New Zealand Times! They all write the same thing, protecting first of all their national interests.
And those who disagree with them are denigrated, portrayed as savages, dictators and cannibals.

80% of people do not have very developed critical thinking, so they probably believe in all sorts of Times.
Of the remaining 20%, few people know what continent Azerbaijan is on.
Our opinion is known to only a few who... they simply don’t care!
Well, since they don’t care, what can we do except not pay attention to them or don’t care like them.
Peoples are different.
And their interests are different. Is this difficult to understand?
Do you really think that all of Europe will suddenly get excited about the idea of Turan?!

Respectfully, the accusations are hard to believe.

NYT, WP & Guardian (despite everything they get wrong) are still better than anything published around the globe. any criticism of foreign entities they may have, does not propagate from a place of racism, bigotry or xenophobia. Rather it comes from perhaps 'extreme' leftist ideals.

Which may deemed inappropriate or unfair in certain context and situations, still, intents matter.

And they hardly upholds any government propaganda or interests that goes against liberal ideals. In fact, often the most intense criticism of Western foreign policy comes from these very publications.
 

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One thing I came to realized conservatives everywhere in muslims countries Hate the West almost no matter what.

However, what is surprising, for many progressive Turks, I see they also hate the West equally. Even though they prefer to live by Western ideals in their socio-cultural and political setting. (Liberal outlook on individual/personal life, secular outlook on collective society and despising anything remotely religious.) That is quite the opposite of how most Progressives and liberals in South Asia would view the West. Geopolitically, much more friendly outlook IMO.

Now i can fully understand how it can be competitive and confrontational geopolitically with the West (unlike in our region) as Turkish National interests often collides with those of the West, but it still baffling how does that results into outright demonization (of the West), paranoia and borderline conspiracy from otherwise educated people.
 
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That's what i am trying to say, i just don't think West is out there to get anyone just because who they are.
A century of a half successful reconquista in and around Turkey beg to differ. Even when compared to other muslim nations, European behaviour towards Turks is remarkably hostile. They smiply want us gone. Fortunately, we are not in that age anymore, but in every westerner's heart there lies a desire to "drive off the Turkish hordes" and retake Constantinople.
 
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