TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[TheInsider]

I agree it's bad, but Pompeo was secretary of state when Trump gave the order for Syria withdrawal. It's not end all be all.

And it resulted in bad blood between Trump and Pompeo and Pentagon didn't execute Trumps order.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but I would suggest that we don't start blaming "outside forces" once again.

the country is full of 10+ million foreigners - pkkistan project is marching forward - new peace process is coming up

who's responsible for all of this? "oh bu-bu-but its America and I-I-sreal" shut the f up, tell me again who's been ruling the country for 20 years?

If you treat foreign policy as a tool for gaining voters and holding your grip on power this is the result. We're becoming a second Iran, and that isn't a good thing.

Elections need to hurry up.

 

[Rooxbar]

sounds quite far-fetched anyway. I've been delving into the other point they bring up about this whole Ocalan thing, i.e. this all being about a war in Iran. The more I read realist voices from inside Iran and Israel and also since perusing a couple of books on the negotiations between westerners and Iran, it's becoming ever clearer that U.S. has only used the spectre of war for intimidation without any serious intent, at least since 2007 when the NIE leak was interpreted by Bush admin war hawks as a coup against plans to invade Iran. I think the pentagon assessment is that an invasion of Iran is not feasible and hitting their nuclear facilities by Israel (excluding Natanz which they can't destroy with their own bunker busters and need U.S. bombers and GBU-57) will only delay their nukes and make them more belligerent so that's not feasible either. Only remaining military option is U.S. bombers with the help of Israel hitting their nuclear facilities but that still translates to an all-out war down the line, so that's out of the picture as well. They seem to be helpless in the face of a nuclear Iran, as the sanctions only led to the acceleration of their program and their defiance. Their only hope remains unrest and civil war via "maximum pressure" which means crippling sanctions and this is the route they will resort to I think this time as well, as they have done before in 2009, 2019, 2022.

What I was trying to say is that the "analysis" that U.S. is trying to invade Iran which many of our own "analysts" have also been parroting seems to me now to be infantile and oblivious to the myriad of public information available in the books by Bill Burns, Jay Solomon, Ronen Bergman, Yousef Azizi, Ali Alizadeh, etc. which shows that none of the U.S. threats with regards to a military option on Iran have been credible since Iran passed the thresholds which they did in their nuclear program since about 2005-2007.

For me to make that mistake is one thing, but those whose job is to be political analyzers to make this mistake goes to show the horrendous level of analysis by our political commentators and politicians. I wasted almost the whole of past three days, reading up on this stuff. Hours which could have been saved if we had literate people in this country.

Whatever I said here is with an assumption of semi-rational actors; people Trump is appointing right now are mostly people blind with Zionist rage (or at least pretending to be for monetary reasons). So all those apprehensions and calculations might be null and void if only thing you want is to do the bidding of the craziest factions in Israel.

 

[Rooxbar]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/new-top-diplomat-saar-calls-for-boosting-kurdish-ties-admits-failures-in-amsterdam-response/

 

[Ryder]

The autonomous Kurdistan Region in Iraq is strategically situated along Iran’s and Turkey’s borders, which makes it a strategically potent potential ally for Israel. In the 1960s and 70s, the IDF and Mossad supported Kurdish rebels against the Iraqi government, in cooperation with Iran.

Sa’ar also points out the Druze minorities in Syria and Lebanon as possible partners.

“Understand that in a region where we will always be a minority – natural alliances will be with other minorities,” he says.

 

[Ryder]

After that the Assyrians will start demanding a homeland.

Then the refugees in Turkiye will be asking for their own homeland.

It will keep on going and going.

 

[Ryder]

this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but I would suggest that we don't start blaming "outside forces" once again.

the country is full of 10+ million foreigners - pkkistan project is marching forward - new peace process is coming up

who's responsible for all of this? "oh bu-bu-but its America and I-I-sreal" shut the f up, tell me again who's been ruling the country for 20 years?

If you treat foreign policy as a tool for gaining voters and holding your grip on power this is the result. We're becoming a second Iran, and that isn't a good thing.

Elections need to hurry up.

Outside forces only take advantage of what is going inside of the country.

If the internal structure is not strong somebody will take advantage of it.

Unfortunately man most of the politicians in Turkiye regardless if its Erdogan or not are under somebodies pay roll.

 

[selim]

Pompeo was anti-Turkish to the core.

The other guys mentioned for a potential role in Trump government are still politicians.
Once they are part of the government they get full / better access to intelligence, more time with Trump personally.
Then they might change their tune.
No official in Trump government will do anything against Trump's wishes, or they'll get fired.

Most important is still Trump, and than Vance.
Trump-Erdogan chemistry will decide everything.

 

[selim]

Trump only has 4 years, then it is over with his active career.
I expect him to rule ruthlessly, and in a quick style not tolerating any kind of behavior within his own ranks against his wishes be it on Türkiye or other areas.

 

[Anastasius]

Marco Rubio hasn't been officially chosen yet, plenty of time for Trump to get pissed off at him and change his mind. Plus an interesting point about Trump is that he very frequently changed his cabinet staff during his first administration because they kept trying to backstab him. Mostly the neocon sector.

 

[Lool]

The new trump cabinet seems to be literally completely filled with neocons. These are the same people who tried to backstab trump many times during his first presidency. In other words, the current events, prove to us once again that regardless of who wins the white office the zionist/jewish deep state will be the ones who run the country as always

 

[Afif]

Erdogan invites Prof Yunus to visit Turkey, assures full support to build a prosperous Bangladesh​

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has invited Chief Adviser Prof Muhammad Yunus to visit Turkey and assured Bangladesh of all possible help in its journey to carry out deep reforms and build a prosperous country.

Erdogan invites Prof Yunus to visit Turkey, assures full support to build a prosperous Bangladesh

Chief adviser meets global leaders at climate summit

www.tbsnews.net

 

[I_Love_F16]

Erdogan invites Prof Yunus to visit Turkey, assures full support to build a prosperous Bangladesh​

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has invited Chief Adviser Prof Muhammad Yunus to visit Turkey and assured Bangladesh of all possible help in its journey to carry out deep reforms and build a prosperous country.

Erdogan invites Prof Yunus to visit Turkey, assures full support to build a prosperous Bangladesh

Chief adviser meets global leaders at climate summit

www.tbsnews.net

Good, but I think that he should have started building a prosperous future for his own country first before trying to do it for the others. Because with everything that is happening in Turkiye right now, the future doesn’t look that bright.

 

[Rooxbar]

Good, but I think that he should have started building a prosperous future for his own country first before trying to do it for the others. Because with everything that is happening in Turkiye right now, the future doesn’t look that bright.

Well, that's beside the point. Domestic mismanagement is no excuse for international disengagements. Engaged foreign policy breeds sophistication among the politicians of a country and creates a tradition of astute realpolitik analysis and veteran intelligence people. These are aspects which all countries need to foster, big and small.

Many of the mistakes of our current politicians in the international arena are not directly on them but due to their isolationist forebears. This might be a surprise but in this regard I align with the likes of Ahmet Davutoglu () more than you might glean from my postings on this forum.

 

[Asena_great]

This might be a surprise but in this regard I align with the likes of Ahmet Davutoglu () more than you might glean from my postings on this forum.

 

[Rooxbar]

Don't fret I'm not with him on the specifics, just that engaging far and wide in the middle-east is prudent policy; retreating into your shell cannot sustain an ambitious outlook in terms of energy policy, maritime trade and a military and diplomatic forward base for opening up markets.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but I would suggest that we don't start blaming "outside forces" once again.

the country is full of 10+ million foreigners - pkkistan project is marching forward - new peace process is coming up

who's responsible for all of this? "oh bu-bu-but its America and I-I-sreal" shut the f up, tell me again who's been ruling the country for 20 years?

If you treat foreign policy as a tool for gaining voters and holding your grip on power this is the result. We're becoming a second Iran, and that isn't a good thing.

Elections need to hurry up.

Erdogan’s Turkey: Diminished and Marginalized

Under Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the Justice and Development Party’s (AKP) rule, Turkey’s standing in the world has unquestionably diminished. If the purpose of foreign policy is the pursuit and realization of national interests in the international arena, there is a strong case to be made that...

nationalinterest.org

Not sure about the history of the author and there are several things I disagree with, but worth a read to see how Erdoğan's rule has hurt our interests.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Minister of National Defence Yaşar Güler:

Israel may attack Turkey.

It doesn't take a big event, World War III could break out at any time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856427901568081994

I don't even know what to say anymore, it's like we are purposely trying to become Iran 2.0, meanwhile Arab countries don't give a shit about Israel. Truth is it's all for domestic consumption. Our foreign policy is a JOKE.

 

[what]

I honestly dont know what the endgame here is. We don't gain anything about being the loudest opponent of Israel. We just lose.

 

[GoatsMilk]

I honestly dont know what the endgame here is. We don't gain anything about being the loudest opponent of Israel. We just lose.

Its mainly to do with the kurdistan project. So a month ago they talked about further changing the constitution. This opens Turkiye up to being divided, with first autonomy and then later separation. Its a step by step process. Kurdistan iraq, Kurdistan, Syria and Eventual Kurdistan Turkiye. The euro-origin powers including isreal have been behind it every step of the way.

So the trick is to get the Turkish people focussing on isreal and talks about world war 3, that way as your nation is being destroyed and divided internally you won't even notice it. And its obvious as stated on here that autonomy will be sold as Turkiye expanding. Just look at syria and see how the world oppossed us everytime we moved from Russia, to the US to the EU. None of those powers would allow the Kurds to take a position that unites them with Turkiye.

Truth is the Turkish nation is being bent over and from the looks of it their not only going to accept it, they are going to celebrate it like something good was achieved. divide and conquer and no more.