TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Sanchez]

Thoughts?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915449793188385194

I thought we were done with this bullshit, it won't change anything. Law doesn't run backwards. No amount of recognition or non recognition won't mean anything. Just hoping that it won't be something that takes effort to keep it as is going forward, stealing spotlight from things that matter.

 

[what]

Thoughts: who gives a shit. And this goes both ways.

 

[Iskander]

American journalist David Satter, who specializes in the USSR and Russia, comments for the Azerbaijani publication Hakkin az.

"These are shameful times for America"

"Donald Trump's consolidation with the Russian aggressor has dealt a blow to the dignity and reputation of the United States. Restoring the lost trust in the world will be incredibly difficult, if not impossible"
According to Satter, Trump is hatching some "grand idea" that Zelensky and Ukraine are preventing him from implementing.
"Not only does Trump have a personal dislike for Zelensky and Ukraine, but he is also striking in his naivety," Satter claims. "Having succumbed to Russian propaganda, he mindlessly repeats the Kremlin narratives and, in fact, has sided with the aggressor. His absurd "peace plan", which involves forcing Ukraine to capitulate, goes beyond the bounds of decency and directly hits the international authority of the United States." Sutter reminds us: Trump came to power under the slogan of "strengthening America", but failed in everything he undertook. His actions weakened NATO, destroyed the collective defense of the West and demoralized the allies. Now, in the face of a threat from China or Russia, the United States will be effectively disarmed.
"Russians today are so poisoned by propaganda that any aggression by the Kremlin will be perceived by them as a sacred mission of "gathering Russian lands", the publicist emphasizes. - America, which refused to support Ukraine, is unlikely to save Estonia or Latvia. Public statements by representatives of the Trump administration about the unwillingness to defend Europe are a disgrace for the United States."
"Trump selects those who simply flatter him for his team," David Sutter summarized. - Their influence in the White House is enormous. I do not think that he will try to usurp power completely, but in four years of presidency, Donald Trump is capable of inflicting such damage on the world that humanity will have to pay for many decades to come."

Наступили позорные времена для Америки - легендарный Дэвид Саттер комментирует для haqqin.az

haqqin.az

According to Satter, Trump is hatching some "grand idea" that Ukraine is preventing him from implementing.
What is this grand idea? Unfortunately, Satter does not talk about it.
Just recently, Trump repeated that he is not joking about Canada and Greenland joining the United States.
What could be grander than that?!
By defending Russia's blatant aggression against Ukraine, Trump, in my opinion, is preparing the ground for American aggression!
Agree, the occupation of huge Canada really does look grand!

It was not for nothing that I warned that the innocent flirtation of the handsome young Trudeau with the beautiful Melonia, in Trump's opinion, is not entirely innocent and may have some consequences for Canada

 

[BalkanTurk90]

I dont know where to post it but i think belongs to geopolitics ,
I was just watching youtube documentary about israeli operarion orchard bombing Syrian Nuclear site in 2007 and what shocked me is that they said they used Tuekish airspace . I want more info if its true and we let them rape our airspace by small terror state like israel ??
This is photo that deacribe thwir route to bomb nuclear site passing throw Hatay and Turkish border .

 

[Sanchez]

I dont know where to post it but i think belongs to geopolitics ,
I was just watching youtube documentary about israeli operarion orchard bombing Syrian Nuclear site in 2007 and what shocked me is that they said they used Tuekish airspace . I want more info if its true and we let them rape our airspace by small terror state like israel ??
This is photo that deacribe thwir route to bomb nuclear site passing throw Hatay and Turkish border .
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Then even dropped their used external tanks over Turkey on the way back, it was a political crisis at the time.

"Immediately following the attack, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, explained the situation, and asked him to relay a message to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad that Israel would not tolerate another nuclear plant, but that no further action was planned. Olmert said that Israel did not want to play up the incident and was still interested in peace with Syria, adding that if Assad chose not to draw attention to the incident, he would do likewise.

On 28 October, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the Israeli cabinet that he had apologized to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan if Israel violated Turkish airspace. In a statement released to the press after the meeting he said: "In my conversation with the Turkish prime minister, I told him that if Israeli planes indeed penetrated Turkish airspace, then there was no intention thereby, either in advance or in any case, to—in any way—violate or undermine Turkish sovereignty, which we respect".

On 10 October 2007, The New York Times reported that the Israelis had shared the Syrian strike dossier with Turkey. In turn, the Turks traveled to Damascus and confronted the Syrians with the dossier, alleging a nuclear program. Syria denied this with vigor, saying that the target was a storage depot for strategic missiles."

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Then even dropped their used external tanks over Turkey on the way back, it was a political crisis at the time.

"Immediately following the attack, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, explained the situation, and asked him to relay a message to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad that Israel would not tolerate another nuclear plant, but that no further action was planned. Olmert said that Israel did not want to play up the incident and was still interested in peace with Syria, adding that if Assad chose not to draw attention to the incident, he would do likewise.

On 28 October, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the Israeli cabinet that he had apologized to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan if Israel violated Turkish airspace. In a statement released to the press after the meeting he said: "In my conversation with the Turkish prime minister, I told him that if Israeli planes indeed penetrated Turkish airspace, then there was no intention thereby, either in advance or in any case, to—in any way—violate or undermine Turkish sovereignty, which we respect".

On 10 October 2007, The New York Times reported that the Israelis had shared the Syrian strike dossier with Turkey. In turn, the Turks traveled to Damascus and confronted the Syrians with the dossier, alleging a nuclear program. Syria denied this with vigor, saying that the target was a storage depot for strategic missiles."

We should shoot them down how we did with russian aircraft . why not with israeli ? what block Turkiye to act ? i am talking aslo more seriuos israeli acts like when thwir soldiers killed civil Turks in ships in international waters . Normal that act will be answered by bombing a israeli warship or even a military base inside israeli but Turkiye did NOTHING .
And thats happens when they have nukes and u dont .
They kills everybody everywhere with Mossad and u elect ocalan family member in parlamentary and other separatist dogs .
Turkiye have all means to stop and punish hard israeli and they cant do nothing . We even shoot down greek aircraft which suppose in paper at least to be allies under NATO and support each other .

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

We should shoot them down how we did with russian aircraft . why not with israeli ? what block Turkiye to act ? i am talking aslo more seriuos israeli acts like when thwir soldiers killed civil Turks in ships in international waters . Normal that act will be answered by bombing a israeli warship or even a military base inside israeli but Turkiye did NOTHING .
And thats happens when they have nukes and u dont .
They kills everybody everywhere with Mossad and u elect ocalan family member in parlamentary and other separatist dogs .
Turkiye have all means to stop and punish hard israeli and they cant do nothing . We even shoot down greek aircraft which suppose in paper at least to be allies under NATO and support each other .

I imagine it's because the Turkish government didn't want to run afoul with the U.S government especially in 2007 when the Bush government was much more inclined to military action in the Middle East. It's was preferable for Turkey to be more restrained to avoid open confrontation especially considering how wide the tech gap was in 2007 which isn't the case now.

 

[contricusc]

And thats happens when they have nukes and u dont .

It’s not because of the nukes. Russia has many more nukes than Israel, and you shot down their jet.

It’s about the combined diplomatic and military power of Israel that makes it basically untauchable. Israel has the full baking of the USA like no other country does. Also, they have the capabilities to inflict serious damage on any regional power, while having the strongest possible security guarantee from the US.

If a country challenges Israel, it is guaranteed to suffer much more damage than what it inflicts to Israel, so it is simply a very unwise thing to do. Look how far this confrontational behavior has brought Iran, Syria or Lebanon. All countries challenging Israel are completely underdeveloped and underpowerd compared to their potential.

 

[Iskander]

I imagine it's because the Turkish government didn't want to run afoul with the U.S government especially in 2007 when the Bush government was much more inclined to military action in the Middle East. It's was preferable for Turkey to be more restrained to avoid open confrontation especially considering how wide the tech gap was in 2007 which isn't the case now.

Hello.

"It's been 3 weeks since a fatwa from "Muslim scholars" calling all Muslims to jihad was published on a website in Ireland (!)!
I first came across this "holy call" on an Armenian (!) website. I assume that the Greeks and other "friends" of Muslims were also actively spreading this "holy call addressed to all Muslims of the world".
But then a priest from Egypt came forward and announced a cancellation. So he called off the war.
Who are these scholars? Do they have the right to issue a fatwa?
Since when does an Egyptian scholar have the right to cancel it?»

P.S. This post was written before you came to the forum. I have difficulty with English, let alone Egyptian
So let me forward it to you without changes.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Hello.

"It's been 3 weeks since a fatwa from "Muslim scholars" calling all Muslims to jihad was published on a website in Ireland (!)!
I first came across this "holy call" on an Armenian (!) website. I assume that the Greeks and other "friends" of Muslims were also actively spreading this "holy call addressed to all Muslims of the world".
But then a priest from Egypt came forward and announced a cancellation. So he called off the war.
Who are these scholars? Do they have the right to issue a fatwa?
Since when does an Egyptian scholar have the right to cancel it?»

P.S. This post was written before you came to the forum. I have difficulty with English, let alone Egyptian
So let me forward it to you without changes.

I didn't study theology in school nor do I claim to have the religious expertise to be a Mufti so feel free to correct me. But there are hundreds of Fatwas with varying degrees of legitimacy and adherence.

A scholarly group of Islamic scholars can Issue a Fatwa calling for Jihad against Israel but considering the significant suppression of Islamism in the Arab world and various militant groups, I seriously doubt it will have any notable effectiveness for your average Muslim and Palestine as a whole.

Nation-states are the primary drivers of conventional warfare and most Arab leaders are dictators who don't care about Palestinians. The Grand Mufti of Egypt can refute such a Fatwa presumably under the guiding hand of Sisi as the handpicked leading religious scholar in the nation even though it has no theological basis in Islam.