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Erdoğan may not be Turkey’s ideal politician, but he has broken free from the shackles of dependence as much as possible.
There are still dependencies, but no longer of that merciless, blackmailing kind that left virtually no room for action. The CHP and its allies would not have dared to pursue this path so consistently, but this is the path that must be taken—no one will give your country anything for free or defend your rights; only the strong are respected, whether economically, politically, or militarily.
 

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Erdoğan may not be Turkey’s ideal politician, but he has broken free from the shackles of dependence as much as possible.
There are still dependencies, but no longer of that merciless, blackmailing kind that left virtually no room for action. The CHP and its allies would not have dared to pursue this path so consistently, but this is the path that must be taken—no one will give your country anything for free or defend your rights; only the strong are respected, whether economically, politically, or militarily.
We're not there yet though. It's going at the right direction, but we're not strong enough to be truly independent.
We will need to finally get the KAAN flying.
We will need allies. The way China/Russia is. or US and EU(well you know what I mean). I only really see Central Asia for this.So no, Qatar and Syria doesn't count.
 

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We're not there yet though. It's going at the right direction, but we're not strong enough to be truly independent.
We will need to finally get the KAAN flying.
We will need allies. The way China/Russia is. or US and EU(well you know what I mean). I only really see Central Asia for this.So no, Qatar and Syria doesn't count.
The point our military industrial capacity reached gives us all joy and that’s not even the peak yet. Military might and political power definitely help building a strong country but to be “independent“ another parameter you need to hit is economy. Fair distribution of wealth among the populace to be precise. You can also add the protection, guarding of one’s national resources that count to a nation’s wealth for generations to come which we literally giving it away with deals worth of bupkis for periods of decades to some company based at Belize of all places!
We need to clean the house first.
One missing parameter, and the independence shakes and if not fixed topples down.
 

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The point our military industrial capacity reached gives us all joy and that’s not even the peak yet. Military might and political power definitely help building a strong country but to be “independent“ another parameter you need to hit is economy. Fair distribution of wealth among the populace to be precise. You can also add the protection, guarding of one’s national resources that count to a nation’s wealth for generations to come which we literally giving it away with deals worth of bupkis for periods of decades to some company based at Belize of all places!
We need to clean the house first.
One missing parameter, and the independence shakes and if not fixed topples down.
Yeah, it's a tough one really. I mean, it's nice all the military capabilities we have now, but this is just the start to be truly independent .
Natural resources is another good point. I see so many western companies in South America and Africa just mining the hell out of it, are we at that stage yet? The resources needed to build those fancy missiles and weapons. Not quite sure maybe we have some, but is it at the extent of western ones? we really need to be greedy as them as harsh as that sounds.
Not even going to even get into AI Data Centers and what not.
Anyways, I truly believe we will get at that stage some day, just when is the question.
 

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As Turkiye expands its sphere of influence and prepares for a new wave of overseas deployments, combatant deterrence is a crucial issue, but if power projection remains limited, deterrence may only be effective against neighboring countries. While there's so much talk about Anka, Kızılelma, Kaan, Tepe etc, I find it difficult to understand why logistical capacity is so overlooked in Turkish defense circles. Even with my amateur and limited perspective, a rough estimate of the need for non-combatant platforms within the air force alone exceeds $12-13 billion. We will need numerous aerial refueling aircraft, various sizes of transport aircraft capable of providing air corridors at strategic ranges, and even more additional aircrafts with electronic warfare and early warning capabilities. The decision to build additional LSTs and the Anadolu LHD shows that we are being a bit more reactive on the naval side, but still not enough.
 

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Than I can not understand why he wants to send troops to defend Israel.
Just my guess.
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Oh, I see.

The 30-day ultimatum places significant pressure on diplomatic channels between the two nations. While Turkish firms remain active in Uganda, the rhetoric marks a sharp cooling of relations, with General Muhoozi warning that the potential fallout could include the suspension of air links.

It sounds more of a con operation rather than political gain. There were some posts* at X timeline that he demanded $1 Billion immediately just to start negotiations with Ankara! Seems like old times when Idi Amin expel minorities and foreign investors with fabricated whoppers just to dig in their wealth and investments.


*I have not posted them here as I was not sure of the accuracy of those messages.
He wants to outsource his mercenaries probably.
Dude, I‘ve just found out at X that he proposed to Meloni on X and offered 100 cows 🐄 for her dowry 😏
Clearly, one of those warlords, self appointed generals that are not uncommon in those parts.Greedy and stark raving mad.
 
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As Turkiye expands its sphere of influence and prepares for a new wave of overseas deployments, combatant deterrence is a crucial issue, but if power projection remains limited, deterrence may only be effective against neighboring countries. While there's so much talk about Anka, Kızılelma, Kaan, Tepe etc, I find it difficult to understand why logistical capacity is so overlooked in Turkish defense circles. Even with my amateur and limited perspective, a rough estimate of the need for non-combatant platforms within the air force alone exceeds $12-13 billion. We will need numerous aerial refueling aircraft, various sizes of transport aircraft capable of providing air corridors at strategic ranges, and even more additional aircrafts with electronic warfare and early warning capabilities. The decision to build additional LSTs and the Anadolu LHD shows that we are being a bit more reactive on the naval side, but still not enough.
You have written it so well that it is not possible not to agree with it. But there are few issues I can’t stop from pointing out.

Do we really need to expand a sphere of influence by military means? We are no longer an imperial power. We don’t want to be an imperialistic country. Besides, that will only create more bad feelings towards us.
Germany, Japan and Korea have very wide spheres of influence without using their military power projections. Their economical sphere of influence is enough.

Taking advantage of warring factions in 3rd world countries in Africa by physically supporting them is nothing short of a precursor to imperialist approach. Yes, sell to them weapons and show them how to use them. But to physically get involved in their internal affairs is wrong. That is what has made France, Britain and US hated by the locals.

I agree with your views regarding the non combatant investments. We need transport planes, transport helicopters, air refuelling tankers, Planes with EW and early warning capabilities, supply ships like Dimdeg.
Bayraktar Class LSTs are more useful and cheaper to build than LHDs like Anadolu.
 

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Just my guess.
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He wants to outsource his mercenaries probably.
Dude, I‘ve just found out at X that he proposed to Meloni on X and offered 100 cows 🐄 for her dowry 😏
Clearly, one of those warlords, self appointed generals that are not uncommon in those parts.Greedy and stark raving mad.
What he needs is an Israeli style treatment! But our people are too lenient for such stuff.
 

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You have written it so well that it is not possible not to agree with it. But there are few issues I can’t stop from pointing out.

Do we really need to expand a sphere of influence by military means? We are no longer an imperial power. We don’t want to be an imperialistic country. Besides, that will only create more bad feelings towards us.
Germany, Japan and Korea have very wide spheres of influence without using their military power projections. Their economical sphere of influence is enough.

Taking advantage of warring factions in 3rd world countries in Africa by physically supporting them is nothing short of a precursor to imperialist approach. Yes, sell to them weapons and show them how to use them. But to physically get involved in their internal affairs is wrong. That is what has made France, Britain and US hated by the locals.

I agree with your views regarding the non combatant investments. We need transport planes, transport helicopters, air refuelling tankers, Planes with EW and early warning capabilities, supply ships like Dimdeg.
Bayraktar Class LSTs are more useful and cheaper to build than LHDs like Anadolu.
Soft power is not enough, strong military essential to protect interests and yes, some sort of „humanitarian“ imperialism would be good for us. But we should just do it without talking and boasting about these things.
 
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