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Turkiye will host an R-4 and an R-4+E-3 meeting of foreign ministers in Istanbul on October 23, the Turkish foreign ministry said on Thursday.
The R-4 group, which comprises Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkiye, emerged in March and has been focusing on regional security and mediation efforts between the United States and Iran.
The E-3 group is a trio of European powers — France, Britain and Germany — that was set up more than 20 years ago to advance diplomatic coordination over Iran’s nuclear programme.
 

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Turkiye will host an R-4 and an R-4+E-3 meeting of foreign ministers in Istanbul on October 23, the Turkish foreign ministry said on Thursday.
The R-4 group, which comprises Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkiye, emerged in March and has been focusing on regional security and mediation efforts between the United States and Iran.
The E-3 group is a trio of European powers — France, Britain and Germany — that was set up more than 20 years ago to advance diplomatic coordination over Iran’s nuclear programme.
Very important meeting.

Italy is now joining too. That implies to me that Libya and Eastern Med issues are going to be discussed as well.
 

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Hope this don’t go under the radar because the Mecca Alliance is just a seasonal breeze compared to this.
I’m leaving this EU resolution that was passed on October 22 here.


“The EU should consider a naval operation in the Black Sea

Following the latest deadly attacks, MEPs say the EU and its member states should consider deploying an EU naval operation in the Black Sea, stressing that freedom of navigation and maritime security are part of securing NATO’s eastern flank, the Black Sea region and the Danube delta. MEPs further call on NATO to consider a Black Sea initiative, building on existing discussions on the possibility of a ‘Black Sea Sentry’, and they underline the importance of closer regional cooperation between Bulgaria, Romania and Türkiye.”

Montreux Convention anyone?
 

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Hope this don’t go under the radar because the Mecca Alliance is just a seasonal breeze compared to this.
I’m leaving this EU resolution that was passed on October 22 here.


“The EU should consider a naval operation in the Black Sea

Following the latest deadly attacks, MEPs say the EU and its member states should consider deploying an EU naval operation in the Black Sea, stressing that freedom of navigation and maritime security are part of securing NATO’s eastern flank, the Black Sea region and the Danube delta. MEPs further call on NATO to consider a Black Sea initiative, building on existing discussions on the possibility of a ‘Black Sea Sentry’, and they underline the importance of closer regional cooperation between Bulgaria, Romania and Türkiye.”

Montreux Convention anyone?
Bulgaria and Romania are EU members. Others can join with air ops.

And NATO MCC was established back in March in Istanbul, staffed and led entirely by Turkish staff.


 

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Bulgaria and Romania are EU members. Others can join with air ops.

And NATO MCC was established back in March in Istanbul, staffed and led entirely by Turkish staff.


Other than Romania and Bulgaria, are other EU members littoral states? And how will they arrange task forces of warships of non-littoral states? They will shift patrols every 21 days?
 

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Other than Romania and Bulgaria, are other EU members littoral states? And how will they arrange task forces of warships of non-littoral states? They will shift patrols every 21 days?
There will be no naval inclusion from non littoral states. I think government have been pretty solid on Montreux this past 5 years. No military ship from a non littoral nation have sailed past Beykoz since 2022, also no Ukrainian and no Russian vessel. Only 2 ex British minehunters that were bought by Romania were allowed to sail.

If the war was to end and we start the post endgame, partners to coalition of the willing would indeed send vessels as in the past under the 21 day rule.
 

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Azerbaijan will not support Feridun Sinirlioğlu if he becomes a candidate.

The Azerbaijani Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced its support for Lana Nusseibeh, nominated by the UAE for the position of UN Secretary-General.

Nusseibeh holds a master's degree in Israeli and Jewish Diaspora Studies from SOAS University of London (the School of Oriental and African Studies). In addition to Arabic, English and French, she speaks fluent Hebrew.

Having served as the UAE's Permanent Representative to the United Nations from 2013 to 2024, Nusseibeh was one of the leading diplomatic advocates and architects of the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between the UAE and Israel.

Israel's Ambassador to the UN, Danny Danon, described Nusseibeh as a "talented diplomat". However, he stated that Israel would not take sides in the nomination process and was not officially endorsing any candidate.

 

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Azerbaijan will not support Feridun Sinirlioğlu if he becomes a candidate.

The Azerbaijani Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced its support for Lana Nusseibeh, nominated by the UAE for the position of UN Secretary-General.

Nusseibeh holds a master's degree in Israeli and Jewish Diaspora Studies from SOAS University of London (the School of Oriental and African Studies). In addition to Arabic, English and French, she speaks fluent Hebrew.

Having served as the UAE's Permanent Representative to the United Nations from 2013 to 2024, Nusseibeh was one of the leading diplomatic advocates and architects of the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between the UAE and Israel.

Israel's Ambassador to the UN, Danny Danon, described Nusseibeh as a "talented diplomat". However, he stated that Israel would not take sides in the nomination process and was not officially endorsing any candidate.


Aliyev stop walking with Turkiye but walking with israel. I hope that one day it breaks free from israel's grip.
 

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A month ago they hit a Italian base deep inside Saudi Arabia, If we send any F16s they are going to be toast, I was proved right once again.
Eh, hamama giren terler. Noone forced Italians to be there, they're happy to be there. That'd probably end up with Saudis bankrolling our next batch of Eurofighters like they did in the first gulf war. Good enough deal. Saudis and Kuwaitis financed more than 50% of Peace Onyx 2, at least 40 F-16s.
 

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Aliyev stop walking with Turkiye but walking with israel. I hope that one day it breaks free from israel's grip.

Look at the entire Turkic world, whether they can break free from American, Russian, or Chinese grip is entirely dependent on how strong Turkiye can become.

Let me give you an example, if Turkiye had 400 KAANS up in the air today along with all her other military developments, do you think Aliyev would need to give a shit about what the world thinks, he would understand as long as Turkiye is there no one has the power to say or do anything to Azerbaijan.

The problem Turkiye has is that she is still vulnerable to America/Isreal and Russia to lessor extent. If tomorrow the Americans/Isrealis decide to come after Turkiye the way they have gone after Iran, Azerbaijan would find herself pulled under it too.
 

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Eh, hamama giren terler. Noone forced Italians to be there, they're happy to be there. That'd probably end up with Saudis bankrolling our next batch of Eurofighters like they did in the first gulf war. Good enough deal. Saudis and Kuwaitis financed more than 50% of Peace Onyx 2, at least 40 F-16s.

ofcourse they are not to win any wars, but simply to get saudi money. Its why the french, the english and others want to be there, just to collect the cheques. Only we will be there and probably Pakistan with the actual intention to win a war.
 

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Eh, hamama giren terler. Noone forced Italians to be there, they're happy to be there. That'd probably end up with Saudis bankrolling our next batch of Eurofighters like they did in the first gulf war. Good enough deal. Saudis and Kuwaitis financed more than 50% of Peace Onyx 2, at least 40 F-16s.
Hamama giren terler Is that what you said when Russians bombed our base? If we go there and create a base houthis will make us sweat don't worry.
 

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