Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

[Tornadoss]

NH-90 manufactured by NHIndustries, a collaborative company owned by Airbus Helicopters, Leonardo and Fokker Aerostructures.

Eurocopter --> Airbus Helicopter. The fact is they have years of experience yet NH-90 is not that good.

 

[Akritas]

Eurocopter --> Airbus Helicopter. The fact is they have years of experience yet NH-90 is not that good.

As helicopter, maybe is the best helicopter that ever made from West companies as proof in Afghanistan and Africa. But is expensive as regards on a per-hour basis because NHI is not support well the project.

 

[Oublious]

And yes of course, again your new missile is superior to Scalp, like i wasn't expecting such an answer.
Ofcourse French/British State-of-the art Cruise missile is worse than your new untested/first Cruise development.
Your anti-ship missiles are ofcourse better than the Exocets too.
Your TF-X jet gonna be an F-22/F-35 killer, right;
I think you need to chill.
You are 20 years behind from France in terms of technology.
You are doing some great steps, but saying everytime that something you build is better from countries with State-of-the-art systems is just being arrogant.

Old missiles old tech, deal with it...

Am39 is a cheap fire and forget missile, other hand SOM can be programmed after the launch so you can send the missile to another target.

 

[Akritas]

Rafale Patches.....

 

[Akritas]

ΟΥ ΠΟΣΟΙ ΑΛΛΑ ΠΟΥ="Not how many, but where"
Is a Laconic quote(Plutarch, Agidos of Archidamus, 3).
It means that the Spartans do not ask how many enemies there are but where they are

 

[Ardabas34]

ΟΥ ΠΟΣΟΙ ΑΛΛΑ ΠΟΥ="Not how many, but where"
Is a Laconic quote(Plutarch, Agidos of Archidamus, 3).
It means that the Spartans do not ask how many enemies there are but where they are

Spartans to my knowledge manifactured their own spears and armors.

I wasnt interested in military stuff few years ago when we were also buying our everything. I only became interested in defense industry once Turkey became a competitor.

We have a saying in Turkey: ''El sikiyle gerdeğe girmek''

Going into first night with foreigners dick.

It is said when someone is proud with someone elses success.

 

[Timuçin]

Rafale Patches.....

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Bruh didn't the thebans beat the fuck out of sparta? lmao What a great warrior race that can't even beat few nomads from central asia.

 

[Timuçin]

Again their predecessors and other missiles made by the companies have had great success, so why would they be worse when they all use the same principles with improved technologies? Also I’ve only heard the Turkish missiles being successful against really outdated planes, but if you could cite some other incidents I would be also very happy to read them. I don’t know anything about JSM so I can’t really make an argument against it, but from a quick Google search the range seems to be 550+ KM but again this might be wrong so I don’t know. Also your argument about jerking doesn’t really work since I’m not the one who was jerking , you were. Lastly I don’t disagree that they are a good step and that the future looks bright for Turkish Missiles, all I’m saying is that you can’t really make the argument that the new missile is going to be better than a 50 year old missile, then when someone points out how it doesn’t make sense to compare the specs of a really old missile with a new one when there is a newer one in our arsenal, you reply with ok yeah sure it’s worse than a 20 year old missile but it’s just a step ?

Also where did you heard that turkis Air to Air missiles were only good against old jets? Again greeks with their bullshit only a fool would believe their own lies.

 

[CAN_TR]

If we have 100 to 150 scalps, they are more than enough for our current numbers of mirage / (all 24 rafales to come). That goes for you too, even if you produce 500 SOMs you need planes to carry them. If you don't have enough planes then they are useless.

Fact is every fighter plane (F4 and F16) in TAF can carry at least two SOM at the same time while only Mirage (one) and Rafale (two) have the capability to carry SCALP.

Akinci UCAV's will also have the capability to carry SOM.

 

[Akritas]

We have a saying in Turkey: ''El sikiyle gerdeğe girmek''

Going into first night with foreigners dick.

Actually is Turkish tradition to use foreigners to make the dirty job.

 

[Ardabas34]

Actually is Turkish tradition to use foreigners to make the dirty job.

Whaaaaa!!!!

1- It was your call for help in history that resulted in the crusades. Literally. Even after 4th crusade you called them for help and they came to help you with Crusade of Nicopolis(1396). Even during the siege of Constantinople in 1453 until the last moment you looked at the horizon.

2- You failed in your independence war. The rebellion was on the verge of being crushed. British interfered. If not for outer powers, you were our subjects for another millenia.

3- In what you call Asia Minor Catastrophe, you again wanted to get lands in Anatolia with the complete backing of the allies.

4- Today you are still a vulture state. You are like a tuberculosis in an AIDS patient. The real sickness is AIDS(Turkeys falling down with the west), you are opportunist tuberculosis bacterias. You seek what you can gain from this. When Turkey is diplomatically strong you are ''oh neighbours neighbours'' and peace tunes. Whenever Turkey falls in a crisis 12 miles, EastMed forum, Israel-Greece-Cyprus fuckery etc. Turkey falls down with Egypt due to ikhwan irritation of Sisi and you use this for your EEZ interests.

You give USA land bases, you brag with Frances jets, you hype about getting old ships of USA and all that shit.

So I ask you, how is it actually Turkish tradition to use foreigners at dirty jobs?

Greece is the satellite state of outer powers of the region. You are used as a pawn whenever someone gets irritated by Turkey. Your countrys entire foundation is based on being a frontier against a potential Turkey threat in future. That is why Britain founded your country.

 

[Akritas]

So I ask you, how is it actually Turkish tradition to use foreigners at dirty jobs?

Open a thread in the relevant forum and I will answer you appropriately.
Do you think I did not understand that you and the other Turks came here to destroy the thread for Rafale?

 

[Timuçin]

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Actually is Turkish tradition to use foreigners to make the dirty job.

Bruh isn't your country only acts when It gets support from other countries? isn't that why you lost anatolia and half of cyprus mr cry baby?

 

[Atlas]

Fact is every fighter plane (F4 and F16) in TAF can carry at least two SOM at the same time while only Mirage (one) and Rafale (two) have the capability to carry SCALP.

Akinci UCAV's will also have the capability to carry SOM.

Yeah cause SOM is half overall weight,half warhead weight, and almost 2 meters smaller. So it's actually 2:1 ratio.
It's the same damage overall having 1 scalp or 2 SOM.
But being carried as pair by a lot of f16s is big advantage. Cause you have general more chances to hit the target.
But In my opinion i would prefer a heavier warhead to dismantle the target ship.

 

[Atlas]

This isn't the only thing Turks destroyed about greece We also destroyed your peope as well go cry about it now D

Damn nice attitude. You really deserve to get banned.

 

[Kansei]

Also where did you heard that turkis Air to Air missiles were only good against old jets? Again greeks with their bullshit only a fool would believe their own lies.

Didn't say that, what i said was that I keep hearing you guys brag about "combat proven" results but the only combat use i've read about them was against 60s soviet junk, then I followed it up with I would be happy to hear though if there were any combat results against newer equipment. but again, thanks for continuing the sterotype of the Racist Forum Turk who strawmans an argument, refuses to read the entire post, and then spout some bs racist beleifs about Greeks.

 

[Kansei]

Fact is every fighter plane (F4 and F16) in TAF can carry at least two SOM at the same time while only Mirage (one) and Rafale (two) have the capability to carry SCALP.

Akinci UCAV's will also have the capability to carry SOM.

LMAO THIS IS SO FALACIOUS
"Fact is every fighter plane (F4 and F16) in TAF can carry at least two SOM at the same time while only Mirage (one) and Rafale (two) have the capability to carry SCALP."
You make the point that only two planes can use SCALP in HAF , unlike Tuaf which again you listed TWO planes lmao.
Also can you please send a source that sayd the F4 and F-16 can carry 2 SOMs ?

 

[Kansei]

Bruh didn't the thebans beat the fuck out of sparta? lmao What a great warrior race that can't even beat few nomads from central asia.

Thebans were a few nomads from central asia ???

 

[Ardabas34]

Thebans were a few nomads from central asia ???

He might have meant Central Greece.

 

[Kansei]

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Spartans to my knowledge manifactured their own spears and armors.

I wasnt interested in military stuff few years ago when we were also buying our everything. I only became interested in defense industry once Turkey became a competitor.

We have a saying in Turkey: ''El sikiyle gerdeğe girmek''

Going into first night with foreigners dick.

It is said when someone is proud with someone elses success.