Greece Analysis Greek Rafale Vs Turkish S400

[Oublious]

Let the guy believe that they hit Hisar, untill Hisar hit a Greece fighter.

 

[Foulgrim]

Can we hit GR AEWC or vice versa?

To hit the 4 Erieye EMB-145H AEW&C with a missile or to hit the 4 Turkish Boeing 737 AEW&C seems to me to be very difficult as they will be constantly protected. The war there is purely electronic and who has the best systems, which is extremely difficult to say.

 

[Oublious]

Can we hit GR AEWC or vice versa?

If we have the long range missile possible, it is designed to hit AWACS and B52 bombers.

 

[Manomed]

It ain't easy to shotdown AWACS in a war time no country will get those close to the combat zone

 

[Foulgrim]

Article smells pure Greek bs tbh still says turkey doesn't have enough pilots etc Its been 5 years after the coup attempt I have several pilots friends in the 152. fleet after 2016 everything got on Its track again there no bullshit as no pilots lets not forget greeks also claim We use pakistani pilots :dd.

Be careful how you talk to others. Decent dialogue is not optional but concerns all members of the forum.

 

[Manomed]

Be careful how you talk to others. Decent dialogue is not optional but concerns all members of the forum.

Im not the one spreading bs tbh just trying to debunk it with facts

 

[Huelague]

If we have the long range missile possible, it is designed to hit AWACS and B52 bombers.

As the S-400 system is.

 

[Huelague]

To hit the 4 Erieye EMB-145H AEW&C with a missile or to hit the 4 Turkish Boeing 737 AEW&C seems to me to be very difficult as they will be constantly protected. The war there is purely electronic and who has the best systems, which is extremely difficult to say.

Protected by whom?

 

[Foulgrim]

Im not the one spreading bs tbh just trying to debunk it with facts

To demystify something you can in your comment say with sources that the other is wrong. You do not need to offend anyone, nor can this behavior be tolerated by the forum. That is why there is the possibility of publishing websites with data and sources, so that we can speak with arguments.

 

[Turko]

Neither Rafale is Greek nor S400 is Turkish..
let's live in peace, why would we have to hit neighbors' aircrafts?

I wish Greece would buy Türkish indigenous fighters and Turkey would sell them.
Sounds crazy but it is necessary to flourish the region.

 

[Foulgrim]

Protected by whom?

For the Greek side, it certainly depends on the AN/MPQ-65 radars and the possibility of deterrence with the MIM-104D GEM anti-ballistic missiles of the Patriot system.

 

[Foulgrim]

Neither Rafale is Greek nor S400 is Turkish..
let's live in peace, why would we have to hit neighbors' aircrafts?

I wish Greece would buy Türkish indigenous fighters and Turkey would sell them.
Sounds crazy but it is necessary to flourish the region.

There are many interests and geopolitical rivalries in the region for Greece or Turkey to take a step "back". How much more should Greece buy Hisar, Bayraktar TB2, MIUS and Ada class corvettes! These do not happen even in the most subversive science fiction books.

 

[Oublious]

As the S-400 system is.

If they are in the range S400 will hit them definitly. Greece don't have EW capabilities like we have,if they would have then these systems will be hunt down. Everything will be in the range of Turkish artillery systems. Greece will try to attack with all the weapons he have, he will not able to hold down a week, the amount missiles they will fire will go for 1 week.

Our operations in Syria or in Turkey. One night operation goes like hot bunnies, one night operations and we spent on pkk or isis 100 smart bombs. To able hit 100km+ distance with missiles is expensive and you have to think 10 times before you use it.

Thats our benefit comes, we make them. We can acquire several hunderds. We will have 400 SOM missiles, different versions.

Naval warfare, if you read Pakistan vs India. One ships fires 8 anti ship missiles to hit, it is not easy war. People should read more books and will see how many ammunitions is used . Greece will not stand against Turkey.

 

[Akritas]

Article smells pure Greek bs tbh still says turkey doesn't have enough pilots etc Its been 5 years after the coup attempt I have several pilots friends in the 152. fleet after 2016 everything got on Its track again there no bullshit as no pilots lets not forget greeks also claim We use pakistani pilots :dd.

Not only Greeks but the whole world......

Turkey in pilot crisis after failed coup attempt | Times Aerospace

On July 15 2016, a faction within Turkey’s military, including Army, Air Force and Gendarmerie personnel and units, attempted to overthrow the government of President Tayyip Erdogan, leader of the Islamist AKP party. Before mobilising their forces, the plotters, apparently led by generals...

www.timesaerospace.aero

Turkey’s fighter pilot problems

The failed coup-attempt on July 15, 2016 upended the Turkish Air Force and prompted the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) to purge pilots and air crews from the military. The Air Force played a central part in the failed coup attempt. Although only some two-dozen F-16 pilots took part...

www.atlanticcouncil.org

EXCLUSIVE: Turkey Has Borrowed Pakistani F-16 Fighter Jet Pilots As Erdogan Attempts To Fill The 'Coup' Void - Reports

Since the 2016 coup attempt against Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish Air Force has been severely crippled. The main perpetrators are believed to have been from the Turkish Air Force after they unsuccessfully tried to launch a coup. Were Haiti, Lebanon & Now Turkey Subjected To...

eurasiantimes.com

Greek F-16 pilots face Pakistani pilots over Aegean Sea, Israeli think tank reports - ProtoThema English

The 2016 military coup in Turkey resulted in a depletion of F-16 pilots

en.protothema.gr

US refuses Turkey permission to use Pakistani pilots for training Turkish F-16 pilots - Stockholm Center for Freedom

The US has rejected a Turkish proposal to use Pakistani pilots for training Turkish pilots for F-16 fighters, the Cumhuriyet daily reported on Monday, based on an article written by a pro-government columnist. According to the article by Mehmet Acet, the government purged 680 of 1,350 pilots in...

stockholmcf.org

 

[Huelague]

Neither Rafale is Greek nor S400 is Turkish..
let's live in peace, why would we have to hit neighbors' aircrafts?

I wish Greece would buy Türkish indigenous fighters and Turkey would sell them.
Sounds crazy but it is necessary to flourish the region.

1-2 years left before a war breaks out.

 

[Turko]

There won't be any war with Greece.

Remember currently We are in economical independence war .

 

[Foulgrim]

Hisar failed in Libya, more in ....

Al-Watiyah's hit exposed Turkey’s limitations... - SEMED ENERGY DEFENSE

The stalemate on Libya’s frontline near the port city of Sirte, did not stop Turkey from sending new weapons and equipment to the frontline, especially reinforcing the Al-Watiya Air Base which earlier this year was captured by GNA and became a strongpoint of Turkish forces. Nevertheless, the...

www.semedenergydefense.com

I can not find the sources with the images that existed then. But it is certain that there was no Hisar A short-range anti-ballistic and anti-aircraft system at Al-Watiyah air base. The systems at Al-Watiyah air base were as follows:
-MIM-23 Hawk XXI (1 of 3 destroyed)
-KORAL Electronic Warfare System (destroyed)
-KORKUT SPAAG

 

[Manomed]

Not only Greeks but the whole world......

Turkey in pilot crisis after failed coup attempt | Times Aerospace

On July 15 2016, a faction within Turkey’s military, including Army, Air Force and Gendarmerie personnel and units, attempted to overthrow the government of President Tayyip Erdogan, leader of the Islamist AKP party. Before mobilising their forces, the plotters, apparently led by generals...

www.timesaerospace.aero

Turkey’s fighter pilot problems

The failed coup-attempt on July 15, 2016 upended the Turkish Air Force and prompted the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) to purge pilots and air crews from the military. The Air Force played a central part in the failed coup attempt. Although only some two-dozen F-16 pilots took part...

www.atlanticcouncil.org

EXCLUSIVE: Turkey Has Borrowed Pakistani F-16 Fighter Jet Pilots As Erdogan Attempts To Fill The 'Coup' Void - Reports

Since the 2016 coup attempt against Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish Air Force has been severely crippled. The main perpetrators are believed to have been from the Turkish Air Force after they unsuccessfully tried to launch a coup. Were Haiti, Lebanon & Now Turkey Subjected To...

eurasiantimes.com

Greek F-16 pilots face Pakistani pilots over Aegean Sea, Israeli think tank reports - ProtoThema English

The 2016 military coup in Turkey resulted in a depletion of F-16 pilots

en.protothema.gr

US refuses Turkey permission to use Pakistani pilots for training Turkish F-16 pilots - Stockholm Center for Freedom

The US has rejected a Turkish proposal to use Pakistani pilots for training Turkish pilots for F-16 fighters, the Cumhuriyet daily reported on Monday, based on an article written by a pro-government columnist. According to the article by Mehmet Acet, the government purged 680 of 1,350 pilots in...

stockholmcf.org

All of them uses the first article published by greek city times Yes turkey did asked for pakistani trainers It doesn't mean we used pakistani pilots you are retarded. Fun fact greeks started this whole pakistani pilot nonsense stop with your propaganda.

 

[Manomed]

>publishes a article with fake nonsense

>others takes it seriously and starts using it

>"whole world talks about it"

Average greek propaganda

 

[Foulgrim]

All of them uses the first article published by greek city times Yes turkey did asked for pakistani trainers It doesn't mean we used pakistani pilots you are retarded. Fun fact greeks started this whole pakistani pilot nonsense stop with your propaganda.

It is universally known that you had a problem with your pilots. The reason was that many were considered accomplices by the ruling party of Turkey in the military coup, resulting in their imprisonment as Gulenists. During these 5 years, the Turkish military academies may have filled the gap numerically, but in terms of experience, your best pilots are still in prison. To achieve quality power, Turkish pilots need many more years of experience.