TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[Yasar_TR]

I am not sure a dustcloud appears when an object moves beyond the speed of sound. What if it was a cloud free day ?

This is all to do with shockwaves, decreasing and expanding air pressures and temperature differences.
When the supersonic shock wave suddenly drop to subsonic at the back end of the plane, pressure, density, and temperature suddenly increase. This causes the air temperature around there to pass beyond the dew point; hence giving rise to a halo effect.

These are transonic in to supersonic flight examples.

 

[Sanchez]

decreasing and expanding air pressures and temperature differences

Exactly, there's no set figures to vapor cones. It depends on the location, elevation, humidity and air pressure at the given location.

Still unsure about the photo, but looking at the angle it's taken and the fact that it was published on the official gazette, this is probably the real deal. We already knew Hürjet had gone supersonic. Here's the best proof it did go transonic. We already knew it was possible with the design, and if it can keep the transonic speeds, it can go supersonic.

It was a mistake that there was no official presentation of this in the past months. This is the first Turkish designed and built aircraft that went supersonic.

 

[boredaf]

the fact that it was published on the official gazette

Eh, I wouldn't put too much stock on that mate, none of our entities or officials are above exaggerating stuff, or photoshopping an event that happened in this case, even if something did happen.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

 

[Sanchez]

Eh, I wouldn't put too much stock on that mate, none of our entities or officials are above exaggerating stuff, or photoshopping an event that happened in this case, even if something did happen.

I agree with officials' statements being the case for that but gazettes are usually made for internal consumption and for sector professionals.

 

[Turkic]

Unsure if this is a CG doctored image or a genuine photo. Hürjet near the mach barrier. From TAI gazette 139.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1887809727247069612

Each aircraft has it's own unique shockwave "cone" depending on their airframe design and can appear on non-cloudy weathers.

Shape of the cone in the given photo is looking like F-18's:

High similarity between the cone shapes of those 2 aircraft creates towards me to the thought of editing. On the other hand, it may be reasoned by a possibility of two aircrafts creating similar shockwaves. However, I've never seen 2 different aircrafts sharing such similar shockwave prints.

 

[Sanchez]

Each aircraft has it's own unique shockwave "cone" depending on their airframe design and can appear on non-cloudy weathers.

Shape of the cone in the given photo is looking like F-18's:

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High similarity between the cone shapes of those 2 aircraft creates towards me to the thought of editing. On the other hand, it may be reasoned by a possibility of two aircrafts creating similar shockwaves. However, I've never seen 2 different aircrafts sharing such similar shockwave prints.

It simply looks edited, but there's no way to be certain from a single 480p photo, so I'll refrain from a direct comment one way or the other. It was already announced it passed its supersonic speed test, we just don't know if there's a photo of it.

 

[Gaucho]

Air Force Commander Air General Ziya Cemal Kadıoğlu and Spanish Air and Space Forces Commander General Francisco Braco Carbo flew with HÜRJET Prototype-1 and Prototype-2.
The fact that the air force commanders of the two countries took off with the planes that are still in the testing phase is very important in terms of demonstrating the trust in Turkish Aerospace Industries and Turkish engineers .

 

[Gaucho]

El HÜRJET despegó con el general español

Memorandum of Understanding was signed for HÜRJET​

Turkey and Spain signed a Memorandum of Understanding for the HÜRJET Training Aircraft Project in December 2024. President of Defense Industries Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün, in a statement on his social media account, emphasized Turkey's goal of independence in the defense industry and cooperation with allied countries.

 

[what]

Hürjet with the new camo looks like a real fighter aircraft. Would buy.

 

[boredaf]

I can't believe they still haven't realised they should cut the generic inspirational music no.24 as the jets are taking off, who the hell wants to hear that over the sound of the engines?

 

[Ripley]

General Carbó sounds quite satisfied.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1895399145252274276

This is the entire news bit from X

https://ejercitodelaireydelespacio.defensa.gob.es/EA/ejercitodelaire/es/Actualidad/Noticias/Noticia/9b13de3d-f4f5-11ef-9513-005056a2cb59/?resourceId=9b13de3d-f4f5-11ef-9513-005056a2cb59&path=/sites/internet.es/.content/noticiaEA/noticiaEA_01288.xml#gsc.tab=0

The JEMA flies on the Turkish training plane Hürjet

From the Air and Space Force you can see the training plane 'Hürjet' well positioned to replace the Northrop/CASA (today Airbus) F-5M, which operates the Hunting and Attack School in Talavera la Real.

The Chief of Staff of the Air and Space Force, Air General Francisco Braco Carbó, has flown with the head of the Turkish Air Force, General Ziya Cemal Kadıoğlu, in two Hürjets, during his visit to TAI (Turkish Aerospace Industries), Turkey's technological center for the design, development, manufacture and integration of aerospace systems. "It is a reliable aircraft, with good acceleration and prepared (*designed) to transition to a fifth-generation aircraft," JEMA said at the end of the flight.

From the Air and Space Force - following its roadmap in search of opportunities to continue with the modernization and replacement of capacities - the Hürjet training aircraft is well positioned to replace the Northrop / CASA F-5M, operated by the Hunting (*fighter) and Attack School in Talavera la Real (Badajoz). "The TAI company has many interesting aspects to establish a possible cooperation with the national industry," said Air General Braco.

The search for a replacement for the F5 represents for the Air and Space Force one more step towards the design of the aerospace force of the second half of the 21st century. A force of profound transformations to adapt to the environment and new operational requirements. Likewise, the complexity of the missions carried out in the aerospace field and the demand of current scenarios require training as realistic as possible, with the consequent demand for resources.

 

[Huelague]

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[Oublious]

 

[zio]

is it 3th protype?

 

[Turkic]

is it 3th protype?

Nope, second prototype is 003

 

[Sanchez]

Türkiye explores partnerships with Airbus Spain, with the Hürjet for the Air Force in its sights.​

"Turkish delegations have visited the company's facilities in recent weeks."

Turquía explora alianzas con Airbus España con el Hürjet para el Ejército del Aire en el punto de mira

Y, en febrero, el Jefe de Estado Mayor del Ejército del Aire y del Espacio (JEMA), general del aire Francisco Braco Carbó, se puso a los mandos del Hürjet en un viaje a Turquía para conocer ...

www.infodefensa.com

Remembering this:

Yup. I think people should understand this as it is.

This is not a sale of "Hürjet" to Spain. This is Hürjet going international and becoming a European trainer. Spaniards are very well connected to rest of the continent re aerospace and will push it heavily. At this time, there are no advanced European trainer aircraft either in active development or on cards. M-346 is simply not getting orders and it's not set for becoming a true advanced trainer for 21st century to train pilots for F-35, Kaan, FCAS, GCAP etc. Other projects are all cancelled. Noone is waiting for the T-7 which is fraught with issues and US procurement will take at least a decade to come to a level where they will only then actively seek export.

If this succeeds, UK and many other NATO countries will buy Hürjet, its name will probably change to a more Euro sounding name in the process, many American subcomponents on it will be replaced by European and Turkish ones.

From Defence Turkey 134th issue: "According to our sources, within the scope of the Spanish Air and Space Force (SASF)'s next-generation AJT Pogram, In lieu of direct procurement of HÜRJET from Türkiye, it is asserted that an alternative option is under consideration, whereby Spanish companies will also have local technological participation. This collaboration could transform HÜRJET into a next-generation European Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) Project, developed through the partnership of TUSAŞ, Spanish Companies. As a result, HÜRJET could attract further demand from other European countries seeking next-generation AJT."

Tony Osborne seems to see the same potential in this as well. Spain had also signed a deal to buy 25 more EF-2000s for its air force today, ensuring program goes on and necessitates the Germans to place another order as well.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1870112466958475573

For us, this means a steady stream of money flowing into TAI's fixed wing aircraft programs, a greater cooperation with European companies which we already had working relationships in the past through A400M, and we aim to have with the EF-2000 purchase and making sure Hürjet development for TurAF needs are finished as required in time and on budget where we won't see a repeat of Hürkuş and most importantly ensures Hürjet becomes an export success in not 100 units but hundreds of units and is sold to respectable air forces around the world for actual currency and partnerships instead of palm oil.

 

[Saithan]

Every time a news is posted in Hürjet thread, I start with "bismillah" hoping that someone will post a confirmed news about us signing a deal on 90+ engines for Hürjet.

Explore is a nice word, but imo it's delaying our own needs. So either we can't get the engines, or we need to involve others in Hürjet to exert extra pressure on US to ensure we get those engines.

That's how I see it.

How many flight hours does Hürjet trainer have atm ?

 

[Saithan]

Turkish and Spanish Air Forces conduct historic formation flight with Hurjet aircraft

On Wednesday, Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) released a video showcasing a landmark event in defense cooperation: two Hurjet aircraft flying in formation, piloted by General Ziya Cemal Kadıoğlu…

www.military.africa

 

[Spitfire9]

I read that the GCAP members are moving towards the M-346 as a trainer tailored for training GCAP pilots. In the same way, could Hurjet be adopted by the FCAS partner countries?