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Aircraft can leak oil, I vividly remember the US aggressor F-18s leaking oil on the ramp like drunkards. Some say that was not oil but water instead, also possible.

Regardless, it's an active duty aircraft of the air force without known issues. Tejas is many things, but it doesn't just lock up and crash. This looks like a very clear case of pilot error to me.


APU exhaust should be up top. Smoke generators are on the wing pylons as fake missiles. Interesting.

Yup pretty much open shut case of severe pilot error at low altitude if you ask me.

It bears uncanny resemblance to the Polish F-16 crash at an airshow rehearsal a couple months ago. Again what looks to be major pilot misjudgement in that one.

Sad.

Shoreham aircrash also comes to mind, that was again a loop with too little altitude for the thrust the old warbird (Hawker Hunter) was capable of. What was wild was the (blacked out) pilot survived the impact (being thrown out of canopy during impact) and was prosecuted for manslaughter of the casualties on the ground. I think he was acquitted.

But really pilots, however well trained they are, shouldnt let rush of blood get too much....its not worth it.
 

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Aircraft can leak oil, I vividly remember the US aggressor F-18s leaking oil on the ramp like drunkards. Some say that was not oil but water instead, also possible.
Of course aircraft leaks oil. But there are limits for that, depending on engine. I remember maintanence guy counted the drops, if it is (lets say) under 15 drops a minute while the engine running idle, the aircraft is good to go for (lets say again) 2 hours of flight and inspect further after that, over 15 drops no go.

It can not be water btw. If it was there was no can to collect. Because while water is harmless, oil is however, clear FOD (Foreign Object Damage) and can be very harmful even dangerous when sucked into engines. So leaked oil has to be removed and cleaned from the apron. In civil airports, airlines have to call the airport authority when leaked on the ground and pay for the oil cleaning service, if you dont there is severe penalty for leaving oil build up. For the military airports (in our AF case), there are always airport maintenance crew to take care of such FODs.
 

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Yup pretty much open shut case of severe pilot error at low altitude if you ask me.

It bears uncanny resemblance to the Polish F-16 crash at an airshow rehearsal a couple months ago. Again what looks to be major pilot misjudgement in that one.

Sad.

Shoreham aircrash also comes to mind, that was again a loop with too little altitude for the thrust the old warbird (Hawker Hunter) was capable of. What was wild was the (blacked out) pilot survived the impact (being thrown out of canopy during impact) and was prosecuted for manslaughter of the casualties on the ground. I think he was acquitted.

But really pilots, however well trained they are, shouldnt let rush of blood get too much....its not worth it.
this butt-clenching show was a year ago and it could wipe out dozens of spectators. sometimes it's just pure recklessness of the pilot.


from the viewers' pov
 

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I find it hard to believe that GE delivered only Six engines in five years!
Is there just some delays, or some production difficulties or is this piece a totally black propaganda?


The American General Electric company left New Delhi in the lurch by delivering only 6 engines to India in 5 years.

▪️A large number of completed Tejas aircraft are sitting idle on the ground at Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) facilities.

▪️GE's poor track record with the Tejas raises question marks regarding the HÜRJET, which uses a similar engine in the F404 class.
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Maybe GE just doesn't see a market for it... and the F404-GE-IN20 simply isn't worth the effort—everyone else uses the off-the-shelf F-404, which can be scaled.

We need to take an honest look at the facts here, without the usual PR spin: The fact that deliveries of the Tejas Mk1A have stalled could ultimately be a strategic decision on GE’s part. If you look at the global market, GE likely simply doesn’t see any growth potential for the Tejas beyond India’s own needs. And let’s be realistic: Aside from the Indian Air Force, no one is going to buy this aircraft. This isn’t bashing; it’s a sober assessment of the market situation.
Who, seriously, would you even try to sell this platform to? In the Middle East or Southeast Asia, no one is going to put the Tejas in their hangar because the aircraft is a diplomatic and technical nightmare. It’s crammed with subsystems from France, Israel, and the U.S., which immediately plunges any buyer into “update and certification hell.” For every minor adjustment or software patch, one would feel compelled to ask half the world for permission and coordinate contracts with four different nations. A potential customer would much rather opt for a JF-17, a J-10C, or proven systems like the F-16, the Gripen, or the Rafale, where there are clear points of contact and straightforward update paths.
India has made a fundamental strategic mistake here: the aircraft was developed around foreign components instead of first bringing 70 to 80 percent of the critical subsystems to market readiness domestically. Had this technological foundation been established first, India would now possess the platform sovereignty that is absolutely essential for genuine marketing abroad. As it stands, however, the Tejas remains a hybrid construct that, while slowly improving thanks to the new Uttam radar and Indian EW suites, will always remain fundamentally dependent on foreign suppliers. In this form, the project is essentially a stillbirth for the export market. One can only hope for the Indian aerospace industry that the AMCA program will finally learn from these mistakes and prioritize national sovereignty over the technology.

MilestoneDateDuration since First Flight
First Flight (TD-1 Prototype)Jan 2001-
IOC (Initial Operational Clearance)Jan 2015~ 14 Years
FOC (Final Operational Clearance)Feb 2019~ 18 Years
Mk1A Block 1 (Modernization)April 2026~ 25 Years (Roll-out phase)

That's simply not enough for a fighter jet or LCA/Trainer.
 

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