Defence Fair IDEF 2021 News & Discussion Updates

[Pilatino]

@Spook

Is that a wishlist or information?

 

[kenny]

MKEK will be a very big brand in two years. For some reason I have that feeling.

 

[Pilatino]

MKEK will be a very big brand in two years. For some reason I have that feeling.

I always dreamed about a better MKE due to some known reasons like shi*ty reveal videos of new weapons with some old farts shooting around like there's no tomorrow. We need a better MKE from advertisement to new projects and administration. I think these are the first heartbeats of that dreamed brand.

 

[Ryder]

I always dreamed about a better MKE due to some known reasons like shi*ty reveal videos of new weapons with some old farts shooting around like there's no tomorrow. We need a better MKE from advertisement to new projects and administration. I think these are the first heartbeats of that dreamed brand.

Turkish amcas showing the weapons is better to be honest.

I mean there is a certain charm to it.

 

[Glass🚬]

I think we will see the first sneak peeks next week

 

[Deliorman]

I always dreamed about a better MKE due to some known reasons like shi*ty reveal videos of new weapons with some old farts shooting around like there's no tomorrow. We need a better MKE from advertisement to new projects and administration. I think these are the first heartbeats of that dreamed brand.

@Sinan , what do you think about it bro? Is there any hope for MKE.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

@Sinan , what do you think about it bro? Is there any hope for MKE.

It is not the perception on the institutions that provide the development, but the employees under the roof of that institution and vision of management. With young and dynamic engineers and an autonomous management approach based on R&D and P&D, MKE will become a very strong institution. MKE has been developing many strategic projects at present and one leg of the freedom of Turkish Republic depends on the success of MKE in these programs. 76mm and 127mm naval guns, 155mm guided artillery shell, 120mm guns, high calibre barrels along with 20mm/35mm/40mm barrels, gatling guns, CIWS, rifles...etc

 

[Test7]

It is not the perception on the institutions that provide the development, but the employees under the roof of that institution and vision of management. With young and dynamic engineers and an autonomous management approach based on R&D and P&D, MKE will become a very strong institution. MKE has been developing many strategic projects at present and one leg of the freedom of Turkish Republic depends on the success of MKE in these programs. 76mm and 127mm naval guns, 155mm guided artillery shell, 120mm guns, high calibre barrels along with 20mm/35mm/40mm barrels, gatling guns, CIWS, rifles...etc

Even the naval gun is a masterpiece in itself. If it can produce a successful product, MKE'll level up in the defense industry league.

 

[Philips]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1424692141041848321

 

[Stuka]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1424721811074387968

 

[BordoEnes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1424721811074387968

Wait so the ordered Pars III variant has basically been rebranded as Pars IV is that correct? Or am I wrong here. Kind of disappointing but marketing is extremely important so I am happy nontheless.

 

[Abdelaziz]

What does that mean ?

 

[Stuka]

Wait so the ordered Pars III variant has basically been rebranded as Pars IV is that correct? Or am I wrong here. Kind of disappointing but marketing is extremely important so I am happy nontheless.

Contract has been signed in 2018.

> The ordered variant was actually called FNSS PARS 6x6 KOMANDO at IDEF 19



> Then they called PARS 6x6 for the "MKKA" Project



> Now SSB calls it PARS IV 6x6

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408481833927462921

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But since the Contract was signed in 2018,
the basis is likely the PARS 3 6x6 and after the IDEF21 Teaser you can see the 35 Ton PARS 4 8x8 the Front is different but usually FNSS 6x6 and 8x8 are identical.

PARS 3 6x6 vs Pars 4 6x6



PARS 4 6x6 vs PARS 4 8x8
> I Think the difference is more noticable.

 

[Stuka]

View attachment 27550
What does that mean ?

I Guess they have either higher level of Indigenous Products or they changed the Supply Countries for certain parts because neither the Engine nor the Transmission is from Turkey as far as I know.

 

[Abdelaziz]

I Guess they have either higher level of Indigenous Products or they changed the Supply Countries for certain parts because neither the Engine nor the Transmission is from Turkey as far as I know.

As far as i know ..they will produce a version with tümosan engines

 

[Stuka]

As far as i know ..they will produce a version with tümosan engines

That one is the PARS IZCI 6x6 and 8x8
> FNSS CEO put it in the latest PARS 4 6x6 Video "This one will have indigenous Engines in 2 Years"
> IZCI is part of another Project and that ones Tender required an indigenous (TÜMOSAN) Engine

 

[Sinan]

@Sinan , what do you think about it bro? Is there any hope for MKE.

If it was up to me, i would close MKE. Simple as that.

 

[Sinan]

I always dreamed about a better MKE due to some known reasons like shi*ty reveal videos of new weapons with some old farts shooting around like there's no tomorrow. We need a better MKE from advertisement to new projects and administration. I think these are the first heartbeats of that dreamed brand.

It's not about advertisement. Wish you could have seen the production facilities. There is a reason why MKE is not exporting or going into joint production with foreign countries, like TAI, Aselsan, Roketsan.

 

[Sinan]

It is not the perception on the institutions that provide the development, but the employees under the roof of that institution and vision of management. With young and dynamic engineers and an autonomous management approach based on R&D and P&D, MKE will become a very strong institution. MKE has been developing many strategic projects at present and one leg of the freedom of Turkish Republic depends on the success of MKE in these programs. 76mm and 127mm naval guns, 155mm guided artillery shell, 120mm guns, high calibre barrels along with 20mm/35mm/40mm barrels, gatling guns, CIWS, rifles...etc

Bro, if we as the defencehub posters, can establish a firm, we can do better job than MKE.

For example, latest products of MKE, RDX and Powder Thermobaric explosive. All R&D done by Tubitak. They plan the production and send the project to MKE. Than MKE builds the buildings, buys the machinery and starts the production. We can do the same.

We can do the same for all older products and we can produce them better with the current technology and planning. At least we won't be filing MK-82s with hand.

Also, if we can keep out the corruption out of our firm. We would be producing them cheaper than MKE.

 

[Oublious]

If the management changes and old employies above 55 years are gone, young and cepable people take the company. Ther will be hope for MKE. The problem lays old employe worked for MKE because of job guarantee untill you go to retirement. MKE should turn in semi goverment company.