Defence Fair IDEF 2021 News & Discussion Updates

[Pilatino]

When Roketsan unveils the NLOS missile, I think that all UMTAS-L missiles integrated/to be integrated into naval platforms will be replaced with this missile.

What's so special about NLOS ?

Seriously impressive T1 turret. We will most likely see the design lines of Altay T2 configuration when deliveries of T1 commence.
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Isn't that AKKOR guys?

 

[Huelague]

Seriously impressive T1 turret. We will most likely see the design lines of Altay T2 configuration when deliveries of T1 commence.

I have still no idea, why Altay will not use anti infrared systems like Russia?

 

[TheInsider]

Seriously impressive T1 turret. We will most likely see the design lines of Altay T2 configuration when deliveries of T1 commence.
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IMHO at this point, all T2 improvements/capabilities should be applied to T1. We shouldn't produce any T1 at all and after a few years of T2 production, we should switch to T3 immediately. That way we can salvage the project.

 

[Combat-Master]

Having watched the mobility tests with the indigenous powerpack and drivetrain, it is actually very impressive and not at all what some people wish it to be.

The only issue is, while Pars and Arma have gone through many changes over the course of their development and time cycles being used and bettered. BMC has not had that time.

 

[Combat-Master]

Akrep IId with COCKERILL CSE 90LP 90mm turret

 

[OPTIMUS]

Imo ..ich sehe sterben following Sind sterben besten Entscheidungen:
6*6 >> fnss izici
8*8 >>bmc
Mbt>> tulpar

There are some requirements that local bidders should meet. One of them is locals motor.

As long as OTOKAR is orientated towards export customers and rejects local aggrerat and components in its projects and products, it will not get anything from domestic tenders. Therefore it is still noteworthy that it is still not understood that OTOKOR products will not find a place at Turkish Armed Force.
2 + 2 = 4. Nothing else.

OTOKAR has already understood this and that is why they no longer bid for domestic tenders.

 

[Saithan]

Seriously impressive T1 turret. We will most likely see the design lines of Altay T2 configuration when deliveries of T1 commence.
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I thought of Merkava when I saw that design.

 

[Combat-Master]

@Cabatli_53 SİPER Long-Range Air Defense System Fire Control Center

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427713954160197634

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Katmerciler's EREN. I think the ugliest vehicle at the IDEF

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Are you sure it's EREN?
It really has an unpleasant look here
But it doesn't look too bad here:

 

[Huelague]

Es gibt einige Anforderungen, die die lokalen Mitbieter erfüllen sollten. Einer von ihnen ist einheimischer Motor.

Solange sich OTOKAR auf Exportkunden orientiert und inländische Aggregate und Komponenten in seinen Projekten und Produkten ablehnt, wird es von - auf die türkische Armee bezogen - inländischen Ausschreibungen nichts bekommen. Daher ist es immer noch bemerkenswert, dass. immer noch Nicht verstanden WIRD, dass OTOKOR-Produkte keinen Platz in der türkischen Armee finden.
2+2=4. Nichts anderes.

OTOKAR hat das bereits verstanden und bietet deshalb nicht bei inländischen Ausschreibungen an.

Without government support and permission, no export deal.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Es gibt einige Anforderungen, die die lokalen Mitbieter erfüllen sollten. Einer von ihnen ist einheimischer Motor.

Solange sich OTOKAR auf Exportkunden orientiert und inländische Aggregate und Komponenten in seinen Projekten und Produkten ablehnt, wird es von - auf die türkische Armee bezogen - inländischen Ausschreibungen nichts bekommen. Daher ist es immer noch bemerkenswert, dass. immer noch Nicht verstanden WIRD, dass OTOKOR-Produkte keinen Platz in der türkischen Armee finden.
2+2=4. Nichts anderes.

OTOKAR hat das bereits verstanden und bietet deshalb nicht bei inländischen Ausschreibungen an.

@OPTIMUS
Translate your posts to English before they get deleted please.
The forum's language is English.

 

[Abdelaziz]

Siper rf seeker ?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

What's so special about NLOS ?

Isn't that AKKOR guys?

It is obvious that a missile like Spike NLOS mentioned by the Roketsan manager integrated to OPV and Barbaros-MLU will provide many advantages compared to the laser guided UMTAS-L in terms of range and fire-forget/update features. In naval battles, it is always advantageous to see early and attack first. The missiles that can engage the target you see from further distances will also be a reason for superiority.

 

[Combat-Master]

-Karaok
-Tanok


- KGK SIHA/UCAV
- KUZGUN-KY

 

[Abdelaziz]

Local servos

 

[Test7]

Are you sure it's EREN?
It really has an unpleasant look here
But it doesn't look too bad here:

This is HIZIR, not EREN.

 

[Saithan]

Do we know which countries have delegates visiting ?

 

[Combat-Master]

Are you sure it's EREN?
It really has an unpleasant look here
But it doesn't look too bad here:

<Eren< - > Hizir II>

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427731669415497732

 

[BordoEnes]

Having watched the mobility tests with the indigenous powerpack and drivetrain, it is actually very impressive and not at all what some people wish it to be.

The only issue is, while Pars and Arma have gone through many changes over the course of their development and time cycles being used and bettered. BMC has not had that time.

Both Pars and Arma have also had export success with satisfied customers. The only thing that BMC got going for it is the ARZU powerpack that gives it an edge, and with domestic sentiments favoring more local and indigenous products they might have a real shot. Also despite it being my favorite in terms of looks, there is no way in hell BMC designed that on its own. I refuse to believe that BMC has the smallest creative bone in there body that they are capable of designing something this sexy looking.

Still though, this is going to be an very interesting close competition, so may the best win!

 

[Cabatli_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427724469506908167

18 August IDEF-2021 Signing Ceremonies

-Gun exports to Pakistan
-Smart Campus Communication Project
-Sahil-Net Project
-Augmented Reality Project
-Surface to Surface Cruise missile Project
-KTJ-3200 Engine Supply for SOM and Atmaca
-Kalecik UAV Test Center