India India - Pakistan Relations

Levina

Active member
Messages
54
Reactions
94
Nation of residence
United Arab Emirates
Nation of origin
India
JKP in Anantnag have busted two terrorist modules of outfit JeM by arresting 11 accused persons including three hybrid.
In a statement issued to Reporters, the Police said that based on credible inputs about outfit JeM is planning to carry out attacks on Police, Security forces in Srigufwara/Bijbehara areas of Anantnag, multiple nakas/checkpoints were established at various locations




What are Hybrid terrorists?
According to police, #HTs are the ones who pose as civilians to dissemble their violent activities. For example, they’re the ones who add fuel to fire during stone pelting by targeting specific policemen/soldiers. #JeM feels the heat!

Full report:

According to Police spokesman, meanwhile during checking at one of such checkpoints at Sakhras crossing Srigufwara, a bike rider with 2 pillion riders was intercepted, the said persons tried to flee but were apprehended tactfully by the alert police party. Upon their personal search 02 Pistols (Chinese) alongwith magazine and ammunition was recovered. During preliminary questioning they revealed their identity as Abbas Ahmad Khan son of Nazir Ahmad Khan resident of Liver, Zahoor Ahmad Gowgujri son of Abdul Rashid Gowgujri resident of Vidday and Hidayatullah Kutay son of Abdul Razak Kutay resident of Liver Pahalgam. They also disclosed that they are the associates of outfit JeM and are in direct contact with Pak based handlers and at their behest they were going to attack Police and security forces in Srigufwara area and then formally join militant outfit KFF (an offshoot of JeM).
Upon their further disclosure 2 more terrorist associates namely Shakir Ahmad Gowgojri son of Fayaz Ahmad resident of Viday Srigufwara and Musharaf Amin Shah son of Mohammad Amin resident of Katsoo Srigufwara were arrested, he said.
Incriminating materials including arms/ammunition were also recovered from their possession. In this regard, a Case vide F.I.R No.: 04/2022 under relevant sections of law has been registered in police station Srigufwara and further investigation is in progress, he said.
Similarly, Anantnag Police busted another militant module in Bijbehara area by arresting 06 militant associates of KFF (an offshoot of JeM) and recovered Incriminating materials including ammunition from their possession. They have been identified as Fayaz Ahmad Khan son of Ghulam Hassan Khan resident of Liver Pahilgam, Muntazir Rashid Mir son of Abdul Rashid resident of Yanner Pahalgam, Mohammad Arif Khan son of Farooq Ahmad Khan resident of Mandar Gund Sakhras, Adil Ahmad Tarray son of Ghulam Nabi tarray resident of Hatigam, Zahid Ahmad Najar son of Nazir Ahmad Najar resident of Liver Pahalgam and the sixth one is a juvenile (identity withheld), he said.
In this regard, a case has been registered under relevant sections of law in police station Bijbehara. Further investigation into the matter is in progress, reads the statement.

 

Jackdaws

Experienced member
Messages
2,759
Reactions
1 1,583
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
For decades, Pakistan pursued a policy of supporting the Afghan Taliban while cracking down on the Pakistani Taliban, the Tehreek-i-Taliban (TTP). With the Taliban in power in Afghanistan, Islamabad may have won its “long game”. But its game of chicken may be backfiring with jihadists coming home to roost.

 

Joe Shearer

Contributor
Moderator
Professional
Advisor
Messages
1,111
Reactions
21 1,942
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
As stated in the second tweet, I wonder who's training these guys since it's not that easy to handle a sniper rifle. Heck our army didn't even have a sniper school until recently, the best marksman in a unit was just handed over a sniper rifle and asked to take up the role.

Hopefully our agencies have some hand in the logistics and operations of TTP just to ensure such weapons don't fall into the hands of Kashmiri terrorist groups

https://funker530.com/video/nsfw-ttp-use-thermal-optics-against-pakistan-military-outpost/
I sincerely hope NOT.

We do not have the intelligence capability to run this kind of operation. It can only end badly.
 

Zapper

Experienced member
India Correspondent
Messages
1,718
Reactions
10 942
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
India
I sincerely hope NOT.

We do not have the intelligence capability to run this kind of operation. It can only end badly.
We don't necessarily need to run such an op, the Iranians or Yanks could handle that. Our guys should just be in the loop and ensure we keep these weapons at bay from reaching kashmiri terrorist groups
 

Joe Shearer

Contributor
Moderator
Professional
Advisor
Messages
1,111
Reactions
21 1,942
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
We don't necessarily need to run such an op, the Iranians or Yanks could handle that. Our guys should just be in the loop and ensure we keep these weapons at bay from reaching kashmiri terrorist groups
I gather now that your intention is preventive, to avoid these weapons from reaching Kashmiri terrorist groups.

That is something that will attract very broad support across a very wide spectrum of opinion. This includes, besides bully-boys and armchair generals in Delhi, and Ahmedabad, Nagpur and Pune, to name three locations entirely at random, those Indians who continue to believe in the integrity of the political administration in power at the centre, and in the integrity of the intelligence operations under the management of the present NSA,
  1. that segment that strongly disapproves of recent high-handed measures taken, that amount to constitutional breaches,
  2. the segment that adds to this a disapproval of the Army being dragged into counter-insurgency operations and diluting its war-fighting capability, as well as coarsening the outlook of the jawan and the officer alike towards the citizens of India who live in Kashmir and are also Kashmiri citizens, and finally,
  3. the segment that believes that a radical overhaul of central government policies and positions is critical to a retention of Kashmiri citizens' even desiring a slight and tenuous link with the Indian Union.

Yes, this is a desirable outcome, but how on earth is an Indian intelligence operation supposed to have any influence on the main players, even by staying in the loop, in your expressive term? I ask without seeking to refute the suggestion, from a practical point of view: what does 'staying in the loop' mean? Information exchange? Can that be considered reliable? Is that likely to be action-worthy? What about the case where Indian intelligence is strongly assured that no leakage of materiel is taking place, and such materiel turns up in the hands of infiltrators into the Vale? How can we even deal with it?

Secondly, there is the danger of being handed off, to use a football term, the entire matter by a Byzantine foreign intelligence service, where we find ourselves unwittingly doing more than politely eavesdropping into their conversations with terrorists.

It does not seem to be practical, although the objectives are undeniably worthwhile, from the Indian law and order perspective. It is also worth noting that there is nothing that will be gained by addressing the availability of weapons and ammunition, if the core reasons for the alienation of 7 million Indian citizens is not addressed.
 

Jackdaws

Experienced member
Messages
2,759
Reactions
1 1,583
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
Balochistan is not East Pakistan in the sense that even if the majority is alienated and desires independence, the geographical contiguity with rest of Chinese/Punjabi Pakistan ensures a supply chain. Plus Balochistan is not as densely populated as East Pak so even if one takes into account the historical record of Pakistan of losing all wars it has ever fought and their killing of civilians - they will be able to go about it in Balochistan
 

Zapper

Experienced member
India Correspondent
Messages
1,718
Reactions
10 942
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
India
Balochistan is not East Pakistan in the sense that even if the majority is alienated and desires independence, the geographical contiguity with rest of Chinese/Punjabi Pakistan ensures a supply chain. Plus Balochistan is not as densely populated as East Pak so even if one takes into account the historical record of Pakistan of losing all wars it has ever fought and their killing of civilians - they will be able to go about it in Balochistan
From a logistical standpoint, it's extremely hard for us to supply the necessary resources for complete secession of Balochistan from pak given there is no direct land access. We just need to keep up the heat via our proxies in Iran and Afghanistan while focusing on negating pak's land access to china
 

Joe Shearer

Contributor
Moderator
Professional
Advisor
Messages
1,111
Reactions
21 1,942
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
From a logistical standpoint, it's extremely hard for us to supply the necessary resources for complete secession of Balochistan from pak given there is no direct land access. We just need to keep up the heat via our proxies in Iran and Afghanistan while focusing on negating pak's land access to china
Perhaps I could explain my own position on this, that varies, but does not contradict, what you have just proposed. A little later; need time to get well slowly.
 

Levina

Active member
Messages
54
Reactions
94
Nation of residence
United Arab Emirates
Nation of origin
India
#PuIwamaAttack"Credit goes to lmran Khan"— --- the CONFESSION on camera by #Pak Minister---👇

Watch it here>>>

We won't let them forget this... ever.
Where are you UNITED NATIONS?
Why turn a blind eye to this confession?
 

Jackdaws

Experienced member
Messages
2,759
Reactions
1 1,583
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
Link

The Pakistani who helped Indian students in Ukraine


When Nitesh Singh, founder of Team SOS India, got started on evacuating stranded Indian students from Ukraine, he had no idea how to bring them back.

All he knew was that he would need a lot of buses and cars to ensure that the Indian students reach the borders of Hungary, Poland, Slovakia or Romania.

He tried his best to organise tour operators for buses but could not find one, until he managed to get in touch with a Pakistani citizen settled in Ukraine, Moazam Khan.

"Moazam was like a god-send for our team. He was very helpful and many times did not charge even a single dollar for the Indian students who had no money to pay," Nitesh tells Rediff.com's Syed Firdaus Ashraf.


Speaking to Rediff.com from Ternopil in Ukraine, Moazam says, "When I saved the first batch of Indian students, I had no idea the crisis was so huge. However, soon I found that my mobile number had gone viral on many Indian WhatsApp groups. After that I started getting non-stop phone calls in the middle of the night for rescue operations. And till date, I have evacuated 2,500 Indian students."

Moazam came to Ukraine 11 years ago as his elder brother is married to a Ukrainian citize.;

Hailing from the Tarbela cantonment area near Islamabad, Moazam studied civil engineering in Ukraine, but then gave up his career as a civil engineer to start a bus tour operator business in Ukraine.

"I have been friends with many Indians even before the Russia-Ukraine war started," he says. "In these 11 years I have made many friends at Ternopil National Medical University. Many of them have passed out and are back in India. They are still in touch with me and we are good friends."

According to Moazam, Indians feel comfortable with him because of the common language link and therefore a connect forms between them immediately.

"In Ukraine communicating is the most difficult part for any foreigner. People here only speak Ukrainian or some speak Russian. English is spoken very little. In this scenario, I speak Urdu and most of the Indian students speak Hindi, so this connects us instantly. Hindi and Urdu are almost the same and therefore we gel well," Moazam says.

From Ternopil, Hungary and Slovakia are a 5-hour drive while Romania is a 3-hour drive and Poland a two-and-a-half hour drive.

Moazam says he has lost count as to how many times he drove Indian students in his buses to the border of these countries.

"I had no time to count. The only thing top-most in my mind was evacuation. If buses were not available, I used to arrange for private cars or taxis," he says.

"Safety of life was the utmost priority in my mind. Luckily, Russians never bombed the areas in which I drove," he adds.

Seeing the crisis and demand for buses going up, many Ukrainian bus drivers raised the price of bus tickets to $250 per student to drive them to the Ukraine border but Moazam did not do that.

"I charged them only $20 to $25. I knew these Indian students had no money. In many cases, I didn't take money because they had run out of cash before coming from Kyiv to Ternopil. The biggest high was the blessings that these Indian students's parents used to give me on the phone or send messages thanking me on WhatsApp," he says.

Moazam shared videos of Indian students and screen-shots of WhatsApp messages with Rediff.com.

Recalling one Indian student asking for help from Kyiv in the middle of the night, Khan says, "He was stranded and had no idea how to reach the border. He was suffering from hypothermia. I called the Red Cross and made arrangements for his medicines. He got better and reached Ternopil after four days. I dropped him at the border safely from where the Indian embassy took him to India."

Asked if as a Pakistani he felt any qualms about helping Indians given the chequered history between the two nations, Moazam says, "You must have seen the recent video of the Indian women's cricket team playing with the baby of a Pakistani player. That is love and humanity. The enmity is all politics, people of both the countries love each other."

"We as humans want the human touch all the time, that gives us love and affection. I always hugged my Indian students who left Ukraine. Hugging each other works big time in such situations. Please do that to other human beings who are in distress in the war-like situation," he says.

Though he has evacuated 2,500 Indians from Ukraine, Moazam does not want to leave Ukraine because half his family is stuck in Sumy where around 700 Indian students are also still awaiting evacuation.

"My brother's family is from Sumy. They are stuck in that city now, they cannot come. I can arrange for transport for them, but the Russians have laid landmines on the roads. We have no idea which will blast off and where they have placed it," he says.

"Therefore, leaving Sumy is very dangerous now," says Moazam. "When a ceasefire takes effect between Ukraine and Russia, then we can evacuate them."
 

Ryder

Experienced member
Messages
10,857
Reactions
6 18,707
Nation of residence
Australia
Nation of origin
Turkey
When bad stuff happens good to see Pakistanis and Indians putting aside their differences to help each other out.

Reminds me of Turkey and Greece with their earthquake diplomacy.
 

Nilgiri

Experienced member
Moderator
Aviation Specialist
Messages
9,764
Reactions
119 19,786
Nation of residence
Canada
Nation of origin
India
When bad stuff happens good to see Pakistanis and Indians putting aside their differences to help each other out.

Reminds me of Turkey and Greece with their earthquake diplomacy.

Push comes to shove, we are all human beings in the end...we have to help each other out wherever possible past the tough times of any (esp. political) relationship. Such things (regular people solidarity on the ground) help the cause for a better friendlier future.

 

crixus

Contributor
Messages
1,021
Reactions
1,160
Nation of residence
Canada
Nation of origin
India
(moderator edit) Updated article:


New Delhi:
A missile was fired accidentally from the Indian side into an area in Pakistan earlier this week, the Defence Ministry said on Thursday, blaming the incident on a "technical malfunction" that was "deeply regrettable".


"On 9 March 2022, in the course of routine maintenance, a technical malfunction led to the accidental firing of a missile. The Government of India has taken a serious view and ordered a high-level Court of Enquiry," the Ministry of Defence said in a statement.

"It is learnt that the missile landed in an area of Pakistan. While the incident is deeply regrettable, it is also a matter of relief that there has been no loss of life due to the accident," it added.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

crixus

Contributor
Messages
1,021
Reactions
1,160
Nation of residence
Canada
Nation of origin
India
New Delhi:
A missile was fired accidentally from the Indian side into an area in Pakistan earlier this week, the Defence Ministry said on Thursday, blaming the incident on a "technical malfunction" that was "deeply regrettable".


"On 9 March 2022, in the course of routine maintenance, a technical malfunction led to the accidental firing of a missile. The Government of India has taken a serious view and ordered a high-level Court of Enquiry," the Ministry of Defence said in a statement.

"It is learnt that the missile landed in an area of Pakistan. While the incident is deeply regrettable, it is also a matter of relief that there has been no loss of life due to the accident," it added.

@T-123456 @Nilgiri @Joe Shearer @Peace Lover @Paro
 

SirhatesALoT

Member
Messages
14
Reactions
5
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
FNkgua4aQAEzAI9.jpg


is anyone going to buy accidental missile firing during maintenance worst cover up ever
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom