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The rules are clear:

No gore/violent images

Also no terrorist propaganda.

JeM, LeT are recognised terrorist groups by many countries internationally.

The same falls for PKK (which has had many more infractions given on this forum when propaganda names are given)
 

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Zahid Wani was a Pakistani and head of JEM , main recruiter in Pulwama area and active since 2017 , due investment in local intl network the number of terrorists in J&K is less then 200 since 1989 .

@Nilgiri seems like the quashing of article 370 has started showing the results on ground

Art 370 (abrogation) was a smokescreen tbh...and for certain political triumphalism.

The security + intel increase leading to these results are separate matter to it....as 370 had already been whittled away (esp during 90s and 2000s) to allow such increase in first place....with commensurate action also on funding and gestation hubs.

What has changed is level of intel assets and networking deployed...combined with main source of funding diminishing (so most terrorists give up and slink away and blend, some even rehabilitated). This all could have been done with or without 370 repeal....most of the process extends well before 370 repeal.

Anyway this all leaves just the few hardcore desperados trying to pull something out of the much depleted hat.

Basically almost any terrorist rat pokes up its head at increasing risk to itself nowadays.
 

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Art 370 (abrogation) was a smokescreen tbh...and for certain political triumphalism.

The security + intel increase leading to these results are separate matter to it....as 370 had already been whittled away (esp during 90s and 2000s) to allow such increase in first place....with commensurate action also on funding and gestation hubs.

What has changed is level of intel assets and networking deployed...combined with main source of funding diminishing (so most terrorists give up and slink away and blend, some even rehabilitated). This all could have been done with or without 370 repeal....most of the process extends well before 370 repeal.

Anyway this all leaves just the few hardcore desperados trying to pull something out of the much depleted hat.

Basically almost any terrorist rat pokes up its head at increasing risk to itself nowadays.
The reason I said after revoking the article 370 , after the revocation the local political interference in the COIN operations is well known . I think the ban of Jammate Islami , the crub on terror finance , better border management and better intl assets on both sides of LOC have choked the terrorist activities to greater extent.

To be honest , I really like the SOG , they are the bad ass anti terror force operating in the worse possible environment

 
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the local political interference in the COIN operations is well known

IMO we were made to believe so and this is somewhat convenient political narrative for me.

Good COIN simply is set up to not be "interfered" with .... any political agents (of whatever level) simply get accounted for and even caught up in dragnet if its serious enough.

So it falls on COIN side to do this well after learning the prior experience and setting.

That stuff still goes on today....i.e where does the interference of note actually reside...

i.e most of the "look other way" ---->pro-interference and outright alliance with terror groups happen in the middle and low layers of some charged segments

370 was mostly symbolism in restricting the top most layers that are most visible in media and political corridors.

A smokescreen (ok I can somewhat understand the reason) to provide cover for the COIN intensity increase.

We want better and improving COIN....rather than tie its result too closely with the political steering well above it.
 

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JKLF chief Yasin Malik faced charges under the Unlawful Activities Prevention Act and Indian Penal Code sections 120-B (criminal conspiracy) and 124-A (sedition)

A Delhi court on Wednesday sentenced separatist leader and Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) chief Yasin Malik, 56, to life imprisonment a week after he pleaded guilty and was convicted of terror funding, spreading terrorism, and secessionist activities in the Valley in 2017.

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Well, it was long overdue. Anyway, he is in jail for some reason or the other for long time. Amongst the terror groups, he is one of the sane person amongst the rest...
 

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Yea - "Why now?" is a valid question.
Basically, it is one kind of messaging to separatist to convey that earlier rules of engagement is changed by GOI...Although on the ground, even if Mallick is in jail..he is a sick person...So GOI will shift him to a private hospital where he will be more comfortably placed....

So all these exercise is to convey message to existing political parties as well as the militants about reducing the tolerance about anti-Indian space in Kashmir....
 

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With Home Minister Amit Shah, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval and JKP police led by DGP Dilbagh Singh putting up continuous pressure on the separatists and religious extremists in the valley, there has been a 600 per cent decline in law and order incidents between three years before August 5, 2019 and three years after the abrogation.


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As much as I dislike the current dispensation, I am glad they got rid of Article 370. Imagine an American living in California not being able to buy land in Dakota. It was a ridiculous arrangement.
 

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