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[Nilgiri]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558475183966416896

 

[Nilgiri]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1560622842550812672

 

[fire starter]

Next Gen destroyer.

Next Gen Corvette.

Next Gen missile vessel.

 

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[Gessler]

Next Gen destroyer.
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Next Gen Corvette.
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Next Gen missile vessel.
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https://www.financialexpress.com/defence/mazagon-dock-shipbuilders-eyeing-orders-worth-rs-1-59-trillion-from-indian-navy/2643150/

7 x additional P-17A FFGs under consideration (on top of 7 already under construction), with an order for 4 (rest 3 will go to GRSE like before) likely by 2023-24.
8 x Next-gen Corvettes (its now confirmed that NGC order increased from 7 to 8) RFP likely in next 6-8 months
5 x Next-gen Destroyers (number now confirmed as 5, not 6 as previously thought).

There are rumours that the follow-on 17A FFGs (some are calling them Alpha-Upgrade or P-17AU) might shift toward Rolls Royce MT30 powerplants.

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[Nilgiri]

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[Nilgiri]

Indian Navy launches second Survey Vessel INS Nirdeshak

According to information published by the Indian government on May 27, 2022, Nirdeshak, the second of the four Survey Vessels (Large) (SVL) Project being b

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Second Survey Vessel Large or SVL, Chennai. (Picture source: Indian government)



She made her first contact with the water of the Bay of Bengal at 1038 hrs at the Launch Ceremony graced by the Vice Admiral Biswajit Dasgupta, Flag Officer Commanding in Chief, Eastern Naval Command. In keeping with the Naval maritime tradition, Smt Sarbani Dasgupta launched the ship to the chanting of invocation from Atharva Veda.

The ship has taken its name from erstwhile Nirdeshak which was also an Indian Naval Survey ship and was decommissioned after 32 years of glorious service in Dec 2014.

Part construction of three out of four ships of SVL is being undertaken at L&T, Kattupalli as part of a collaborative approach between GRSE and L&T shipbuilding. This model of Public-Private Partnership shall be harbinger of future successful collaboration for Warship construction in India.

The contract for building four SVL ships was signed between MoD and Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers (GRSE), Kolkata on 30 Oct 18. The first of class ship ‘Sandhayak’ was launched on 05 Dec 21 at GRSE, Kolkata.

The SVL ships will replace the existing Sandhayak Class survey ships with new generation hydrographic equipment to collect oceanographic data. The Survey Vessel (Large) ships have a deep displacement of about 3400 tons and a complement of 235 personnel.

The ship is designed to operate at a cruise speed of 14 knots and a maximum speed of 18 knots. Bow & Stern Thrusters have been catered for better manoeuvring at low speeds required during shallow water survey operations. The hull of these ships is made from indigenously developed DMR 249-A steel manufactured by Steel Authority of India Limited.

With the capability to carry four Survey Motor Boats and an integral helicopter, the primary role of the ships would be to undertake full scale coastal and deep-water hydrographic surveys of Ports and navigational channels.

The ships would also be deployed for collecting oceanographic and geophysical data for defence as well as civil applications. In their secondary role, the ships are capable of providing limited defence, besides serving as Hospital ships during emergencies.

Despite challenges due to the COVID-19 pandemic, GRSE has made substantial progress and aims to deliver Sandhayak, the first ship of SVL by Jan 2023. The delivery of the second ship Nirdeshak is likely by Apr 2023.

The launch of the second Survey Vessel reinforces our resolve for indigenous shipbuilding as part of the vision of ‘Make in India’, and ‘AatmaNirbhar Bharat’.

The Survey Vessels Large will have over 80% indigenous content by cost. This will also ensure that large scale defence production is executed by Indian manufacturing units thereby, generating employment and capability build-up within the country.

 

[Nilgiri]

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[Gessler]

Indian Navy press release

Two Diving Support Vessels (Nistar and Nipun) being built by Hindustan Shipyard Ltd, Visakhapatnam were launched on 22 September 2022 by Mrs. Kala Hari Kumar, in presence of Adm R Hari Kumar, Chief of the Naval Staff who presided over the ceremony as Chief Guest. VAdm RB Pandit CinC SFC, VAdm Dasgupta, FOCinC Eastern Naval Command, VAdm Kiran Deshmukh, Controller Warship Production and Acquisition, and other senior officers from the Indian Navy and Ministry of Defence were amongst the dignitaries who attended the launching ceremony.

Official graphic of the HSL-built vessel class - with a DSRV embarked​

Indigenously designed and built at HSL, these ships are a true testimonial to ‘Aatmanirbharta’. They are self-sustaining platforms that can operate at sea for prolonged durations.

DSVs equipped with an array of complex Diving Support systems and Deep Submergence Rescue Vessel (DSRV) will be deployed for deep sea diving and submarine rescue operations. Furthermore, the ships will be capable of conducting Search and Rescue operations and carrying out Helicopter Operations at sea.

This project is being executed with support from the Indian industry primarily MSME firms who have supplied Yard material, equipment, and services. The shipyard is extensively using the GeM portal for procuring material and services for the project. More than 120 MSME vendors across India have actively participated in the Project.

“Nistar” and “Nipun” were launched by achieving approximately 80% indigenous content, a major step towards ‘Self Reliance’. DSV project has generated local employment opportunities and promoted indigenization which will boost India’s economy.

Mrs. Kala Hari Kumar, President of the Navy Wellness and Welfare Association (NWWA) performed the traditional honor and named these ships. These ships received a thunderous cheer from jubilant gathering as they embraced the welcoming waters of the Bay of Bengal.

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About Indian Diving Support Vessels​

The Diving Support Vessels (DSVs) are first of the kind, ships indigenously designed and built at HSL for the Indian Navy. The vessels are 118.4 meters long, 22.8 meters at the broadest point, and will have a displacement of 9,350 tons.

These ships would be deployed for deep sea diving operations. Additionally, with Deep Submergence Rescue Vehicle (DSRV) embarked, the DSVs are designed to undertake submarine rescue operations, in case requirement exists. Furthermore, these ships will be capable of sustained patrolling, conducting Search and Rescue operations and carrying out Helicopter Operations at high seas.

India launches two diving support vessels - Naval News

India's Hindustan Shipyard launched two diving support vessels, the "Nistar" and the "Nipun," in Visakhapatnam on September 22, 2022.

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The IN currently operates two DSAR-650L DSRVs manufactured by James Fisher Defence of the UK - one for responding to subsurface emergencies on each seaboard (east & west). Additional orders are likely as the submarine fleet, both the conventional & nuclear-powered one, grows. The DSRVs currently operate from leased support vessels. As of today, the navies of the US, UK, Russia, China, India, South Korea, Japan, Australia, Italy, Sweden & Singapore operate a sovereign submarine-rescue capability - besides the combined NATO Submarine Rescue System which is a capability jointly operated by the navies of France, UK & Norway.

The IN's DSAR-650L:

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[Nilgiri]

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[Zapper]

IN in a join op with Narcotics bureau

 

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[Nilgiri]

Navy launches survey vessel Ikshak, to be deployed for oceanographic data collection

This is the third of four survey vessels to be manufactured by Garden Reach Shipbuilders in collaboration with Larsen and Toubro Navy

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Navy launches survey vessel Ikshak, to be deployed for oceanographic data collection​

November 26, 2022 - Updated 08:46 pm IST | New Delhi, Nov 26

This is the third of four survey vessels to be manufactured by Garden Reach Shipbuilders in collaboration with Larsen and Toubro Navy​

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‘Ikshak’, the third of four Survey Vessels (Large) to be built by Garden Reach Shipbuilders in collaboration with L&T for the Indian Navy, at its launch at Kattupalli, Chennai, on Saturday. | Photo Credit: -

‘Ikshak’, the third of the four survey vessels (large) to be manufactured by Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers (GRSE) Ltd in collaboration with Larsen and Toubro (L&T) for the Indian Navy, was launched on Saturday at Kattupalli, Chennai.

The vessel was set sail in the Bay of Bengal at a ceremony attended by Vice-Admiral MA Hampiholi, Flag Officer Commanding in Chief, Southern Naval Command, the Defence Ministry said in a statement.

‘Ikshak’, which means ‘guide’, will facilitate safe passage for mariners at sea. These vessels with hydrographic equipment for collecting oceanographic data, will replace the existing Sandhayak Class survey ships.

The survey vessels (large) are 110 meters long, 16 meters wide, and have a deep displacement of 3,400 tonnes and a complement of 231 personnel . The propulsion system consists of two main engines in twin shaft configuration and is designed to have a cruise speed of 14 knots and a maximum speed of 18 knots. Bow & Stern Thrusters have been used to manoeuvre at low speeds, required during shallow water survey operations. The hull of these ships is made from indigenously developed DMR 249-A steel manufactured by Steel Authority of India Ltd.

The Rs 2.435-crore* contract for building four SVL ships was signed between the Ministry and Kolkata-based GRSE on October 30, 2018. . In line with its building strategy, GRSE built the first ship, and the remaining three ships (up to outfitting stage) have been sub-contracted to L&T Shipbuilding, Kattupalli. The first of the ‘Sandhayak’ class ships was launched on December 5, 2021, at Kolkata.

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* ~ 300 million USD.

 

[Nilgiri]

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[Nilgiri]

France's Rafale jets are frontrunner in race for Indian Navy contract

Forward movement by the Indian Navy would mean that the proposal for more Rafale jets for the IAF is also likely to gather speed.

theprint.in

Forward movement by the Indian Navy would mean that the proposal for more Rafale jets for the IAF is also likely to gather speed.​

SNEHESH ALEX PHILIP
7 December, 2022 04:25 pm IST

New Delhi: French aircraft manufacturer Dassault Aviation’s Rafale-M has emerged as the frontrunner to bag a mega contract from the Indian Navy for 27 fighters, ThePrint has learnt, leaving behind US firm Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet.

Sources in the defence and security establishment said the Navy has submitted a detailed report to the defence ministry on performance of the Super Hornets and Rafale-M, which is the marine version of the fighter aircraft already in use with the Indian Air Force, during two sets of demonstration.

American firm Boeing and French manufacturer Dassault Aviation carried out operational demonstrations of the Super Hornets and Rafale-M respectively, showcasing ski-jumps — a crucial take-off capability — from the shore-based test facility at INS Hansa in Goa, to demonstrate their ability to operate from Indian aircraft carriers.

Refusing to get into details, sources said the report from the naval headquarters to the defence ministry mentions the “positives” only, and that Rafale-M met all criteria.

The report to the defence ministry has been sent after a detailed analysis by the naval headquarters on the performance by both aircraft. Those undertaking the tests had prepared a ‘trial report’ that was sent to the naval headquarters for detailed analysis on performance and shortlisting of aircraft.

Asked whether the lift size of India’s indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant would be an issue, sources said both aircraft had to be brought up and down at a certain angle. While the wings of Super Hornets fold — unlike the Rafale — these still had to be brought up and down at a certain angle. Both aircraft also have a separate process in which the wings fold.

The design and space of the lift size has been a problem because it is understood to have been made taking the MiG 29K and the naval version of the Tejas aircraft into consideration.

The Navy currently operates the Russian MiG 29K aircraft from INS Vikramaditya. But with the commissioning of INS Vikrant, the force has been seeking more fighter jets.

The new contract is meant to be an interim arrangement because the Navy is betting on its indigenous fighter. Navy Chief Admiral Hari Kumar had Saturday said the future of Indian naval aviation was the indigenous Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF), whose prototype is expected by 2026-27 and production to start somewhere around 2032.

Fighters for IAF​

Sources said the ball now was in the court of the defence ministry that will decide on the next course of action. They added that the contract is likely to be a government-to-government deal just like the earlier order for IAF’s Rafale jets.

It is learnt that the French have offered to transfer some aircraft from its own naval fleet to ensure that the Indian Navy can operate them faster. However, all fighters are likely to be bought off-the-shelf.

Sources explained that the forward movement by the Indian Navy would mean that the proposal for more Rafale jets for the IAF is also likely to gather speed. This is because it would make for a more prudent financial decision to have more numbers of aircraft, thereby bringing down on costs.

As reported by ThePrint earlier, the government is thinking of splitting the mega deal for 114 Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) for IAF. Instead of acquiring 114 fighters in one go, as was planned earlier, the government is looking at going in for an initial order of 54 aircraft for the IAF.

This would entail 18 aircraft being bought off-the-shelf from the foreign Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) and 36 built in India through a joint venture under Make In India.

This would be an order that will be placed with the foreign OEM directly. A follow-on order will be placed to the joint venture and this deal would be in Indian currency.

He also said that the existing naval fighter, MiG 29K, were in limited numbers and Russian spare supplies were “also not very forthcoming”.

 

[Khagan1923]

Makes the most sense. Both IAF and IN using the same jet would help ease logitics and maintance costs.

Also isn't the IAF already operating Rafale jets? Why is it taking so long for the MRFA to finish up? I would have thought Rafale would be the clear cut winner in both tender tbf.

 

[Zapper]

Makes the most sense. Both IAF and IN using the same jet would help ease logitics and maintance costs.

But Rafales don't have foldable wings which now is an issue to fit on our carrier lifts. This is the primary reason IN didn't go ahead. Also, paid articles like these pop up every now and then. When MMRCA 2.0 talks were at their peak, every major media outlet churned out articles favoring whoever paid em

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianDefense/comments/zfxuk9
Recently, there was an article showcasing Russian Mig-35s were the frontrunners...which is hilarious since there's no way IAF would induct another Russian platform. The only possibility is for IN to go for additional Mig-29s in case the deal for Rafale-M or F-18 don't fructify

Also isn't the IAF already operating Rafale jets? Why is it taking so long for the MRFA to finish up? I would have thought Rafale would be the clear cut winner in both tender tbf.

kickbacks...IAF's top brass are way too greedy. They'd rather not induct any than selecting one without receiving their share of kickbacks and commissions

Wait for a few more years when MWF (Tejas Mk-II) is ready when our MoD will add 4th gen fighters in the no-import list and IAF will end up doubling the orders for MWF

 

[Windchime]

France's Rafale jets are frontrunner in race for Indian Navy contract

Forward movement by the Indian Navy would mean that the proposal for more Rafale jets for the IAF is also likely to gather speed.

theprint.in

Forward movement by the Indian Navy would mean that the proposal for more Rafale jets for the IAF is also likely to gather speed.​

SNEHESH ALEX PHILIP
7 December, 2022 04:25 pm IST

New Delhi: French aircraft manufacturer Dassault Aviation’s Rafale-M has emerged as the frontrunner to bag a mega contract from the Indian Navy for 27 fighters, ThePrint has learnt, leaving behind US firm Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet.

Sources in the defence and security establishment said the Navy has submitted a detailed report to the defence ministry on performance of the Super Hornets and Rafale-M, which is the marine version of the fighter aircraft already in use with the Indian Air Force, during two sets of demonstration.

American firm Boeing and French manufacturer Dassault Aviation carried out operational demonstrations of the Super Hornets and Rafale-M respectively, showcasing ski-jumps — a crucial take-off capability — from the shore-based test facility at INS Hansa in Goa, to demonstrate their ability to operate from Indian aircraft carriers.

Refusing to get into details, sources said the report from the naval headquarters to the defence ministry mentions the “positives” only, and that Rafale-M met all criteria.

The report to the defence ministry has been sent after a detailed analysis by the naval headquarters on the performance by both aircraft. Those undertaking the tests had prepared a ‘trial report’ that was sent to the naval headquarters for detailed analysis on performance and shortlisting of aircraft.

Asked whether the lift size of India’s indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant would be an issue, sources said both aircraft had to be brought up and down at a certain angle. While the wings of Super Hornets fold — unlike the Rafale — these still had to be brought up and down at a certain angle. Both aircraft also have a separate process in which the wings fold.

The design and space of the lift size has been a problem because it is understood to have been made taking the MiG 29K and the naval version of the Tejas aircraft into consideration.

The Navy currently operates the Russian MiG 29K aircraft from INS Vikramaditya. But with the commissioning of INS Vikrant, the force has been seeking more fighter jets.

The new contract is meant to be an interim arrangement because the Navy is betting on its indigenous fighter. Navy Chief Admiral Hari Kumar had Saturday said the future of Indian naval aviation was the indigenous Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF), whose prototype is expected by 2026-27 and production to start somewhere around 2032.

Fighters for IAF​

Sources said the ball now was in the court of the defence ministry that will decide on the next course of action. They added that the contract is likely to be a government-to-government deal just like the earlier order for IAF’s Rafale jets.

It is learnt that the French have offered to transfer some aircraft from its own naval fleet to ensure that the Indian Navy can operate them faster. However, all fighters are likely to be bought off-the-shelf.

Sources explained that the forward movement by the Indian Navy would mean that the proposal for more Rafale jets for the IAF is also likely to gather speed. This is because it would make for a more prudent financial decision to have more numbers of aircraft, thereby bringing down on costs.

As reported by ThePrint earlier, the government is thinking of splitting the mega deal for 114 Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) for IAF. Instead of acquiring 114 fighters in one go, as was planned earlier, the government is looking at going in for an initial order of 54 aircraft for the IAF.

This would entail 18 aircraft being bought off-the-shelf from the foreign Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) and 36 built in India through a joint venture under Make In India.

This would be an order that will be placed with the foreign OEM directly. A follow-on order will be placed to the joint venture and this deal would be in Indian currency.

He also said that the existing naval fighter, MiG 29K, were in limited numbers and Russian spare supplies were “also not very forthcoming”.

So those Rafales are for Vikrant and TEDBF for Vikramaditya to replace the Migs... Tbh I still don't see the point of the program. The artice mentioned Rafale as an "interim" arrangement but in my eyes TEDBF is the real interim before AMCA arrives, and a possible naval variant of it.

You've mentioned that the chances of TEDBF progressing as-is would be low but are there more details to it? It is indeed way more logical to just skip this TEDBF idea all together.

 

[Nilgiri]

So those Rafales are for Vikrant and TEDBF for Vikramaditya to replace the Migs... Tbh I still don't see the point of the program. The artice mentioned Rafale as an "interim" arrangement but in my eyes TEDBF is the real interim before AMCA arrives, and a possible naval variant of it.

You've mentioned that the chances of TEDBF progressing as-is would be low but are there more details to it? It is indeed way more logical to just skip this TEDBF idea all together.

Yes I personally think getting Rafale makes most sense (in interim) since we already got the 36 for the Air Force and the French are cooperating well to allow integration of Indian weapons systems:

Integration of the Astra and SAAW on the Rafale - DefenceHub

Amidst the recently concluded "Defexpo 2022" in India, a significant yet under-reported development materialised regarding local Indian missile platforms and the Dassault Rafale aircraft. A memorandum of understanding (MOU) was signed between BDL (Bharat Dynamics Limited) and Dassault on the...

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To me subsuming TEDBF under AMCA (into a naval AMCA variant) makes the most sense in the timeframes (i.e lining up with when AMCA is supposed to mature) and funding constraints I see.

Greater adoption by IAF of Rafale, well that would displace MWF as Zapper points out.

I dont see that as being likely given Tejas has matured enough (to grow into MWF-size quickly) and has enough political backing to persevere over import options. i.e timeline development is much more accelerated (and needs much more urgent) here compared to TEDBF.

If there is a big strategic agreement reached with France as to order size needed for shifting rafale production lines entirely and say substantial safran powerplant cooperation for Indian gas turbine program....then that is liable to change as well (given there is no way to fund both MWF and Rafale). But that kind of thing is hard to predict at this juncture right now.

Hopefully 2023 (and things like Aero India at the start of it) sheds more light on these matters.

 

[Nilgiri]

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