TR Indigenously Made Firearms & Medium Calibre Weapons

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“4 MOA” is not a good value.
What are the experiences by our forces?
*facepalm*
That's a standard value (minimum acceptable) for military rifles with military grade ammo. btw. do you actually know how this all works in reality?

There is a Defence Turk video where the reporter managed ~3-3,5 MOA group with a MPT-76 that had over 15000 rounds through, that's more than enough to smoke a man sized target at ~300m.
 

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*facepalm*
That's a standard value (minimum acceptable) for military rifles with military grade ammo. btw. do you actually know how this all works in reality?

There is a Defence Turk video where the reporter managed ~3-3,5 MOA group with a MPT-76 that had over 15000 rounds through, that's more than enough to smoke a man sized target at ~300m.
As I said, it’s not a good value. 3 Moa is a good value, 4 Moa is not a good value, but acceptable.
 

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As I said, it’s not a good value. 3 Moa is a good value, 4 Moa is not a good value, but acceptable.
The M4A1 is also classified 4 MOA yet it's closer to 2 MOA in real tests, that's just a standard min. number given by the producer.

You're always trying to cherry pick something out only to rant about, even though you have no clue about the topic. btw. 4 MOA is still hitting a man sized target at 300m.
 

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Maximum range of shotguns is 100 meters which is poor however it is better than nothing. Regarding full auto shotgun, i would say it would be useless. Semi auto engagement is more accurate.


This gun and its short 20mm caliber would be interesting, if the ammo were smart with proximity fuse.
 

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