Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[NEKO]

What we can do is just wait.

Do you think how long we've been waiting for this payment drama to end? Still need to wait longer?

 

[schuimpjes]

Do you think how long we've been waiting for this payment drama to end? Still need to wait longer?

Till we got the newest information about Indonesia involvement on KFX wkwk.
#jawabantidakmemuaskan

 

[Umigami]

I'm not worried too much about this KFX matter. Our MoD already "setor muka" at launching, a lot of korean investments here (especially electric car), and we already spent 200 million dollar. We already crossed the line of no return.

They'll solve their problem somehow.

 

[NEKO]

I am not sure about that.

@Madokafc IIRC didn't you said we got involved (or interested?) in development project with LIG Nex1 on some kind of missile, this Taurus KW I think. Idk I may be wrong it was old discussion in the old place.

My bad, it was smart bomb.

 

[Parry Brima]

>Rafale
>Low operational cost
Maybe it will be cheaper to operate if it can fly with one engine.

Who else is Gripen stan in this thread Except @Parry Brima ? Pls raise your hand.
For me the choices will be FA50/F16/Gripen.

If SK integrate Taurus KW to FA50, then it will be more appealing than Gripen, no need new type of airframe.

I think you worry about money too much. Watch out, the narrative that tells you "we don't have money" could be part of some marketing BS from certain side

 

[Nilgiri]

Well, the episode seems to be long. Definitely not just an aftermath

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1442931084849602563

After getting humiliated by the US in Australia, wonder if he knows that his beloved fighter is currently in another fierce battle against the US products in another Indo-Pacific country

Humiliated by the US second time in a row? Surely that will send even stronger earthquake across EU

Remember he is also facing elections soon (and has to pre-empt lot of what Le Pen will use for it).

I track these things in larger 1 - 2 year time frames as minimum resolution tbh....the weekly and monthly "talk" stuff has to actually build up there to count IMO.

 

[Gary]

1. Buy F16 and FA50 as many as our money allow us.

if there's the money to buy 2 squadrons worth of FA-50,imo its better to spent on 1 full squadron of the F-16V instead.

FA-50 will not do much when our neighbors has F-35, Super Hornet, J-16, etc.

on long term prospect I think we must find a way to have those F-35. there's no other way around, we MUST have VLO planes on our inventory.

 

[Umigami]

if there's the money to buy 2 squadrons worth of FA-50,imo its better to spent on 1 full squadron of the F-16V instead.

FA-50 will not do much when our neighbors has F-35, Super Hornet, J-16, etc.

on long term prospect I think we must find a way to have those F-35. there's no other way around, we MUST have VLO planes on our inventory.

Is this the way?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443306083267796996

What kind of campaign?

 

[Barjo_2]

Is this the way?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443306083267796996

What kind of campaign?

Part of global SDG and investment program if i not miss
Obama administration and Clinton journey to bali back in 2010-2011 ASEAN meeting, pivot to asia policy, softenen our position or maybe bribe us for US military present in region

And also the time we got a falcon free of.. Errr.. Charge.. I think
Speaking jujur MEF procurement is not only design to fulfil our capability in defence but also (some broker and defence contractor) retirement fund also...

 

[schuimpjes]

imo its better to spent on 1 full squadron of the F-16V instead

I have a feeling that MoD doesn't want FMS, does anyone here feel the same too? CMIIW

I always see that MoD is always setengah hati if the procurement using FMS scheme.

 

[Parry Brima]

I have a feeling that MoD doesn't want FMS, does anyone here feel the same too? CMIIW

Many countries (Qatar, Saudi, Israel, etc) purchased F-15 through FMS. What's the reason not liking it? Is the "FMS version" much worse than the ones the USAF operate?

 

[schuimpjes]

Many countries (Qatar, Saudi, Israel, etc) purchased F-15 through FMS. What's the reason not liking it? Is the "FMS version" much worse than the ones the USAF operate?

I assume you're a grown man.

Not accusing someone of anything, but i just have a pinch of suspicion.

 

[NEKO]

I assume you're a grown man.

Not accusing someone of anything, but i just have a pinch of suspicion.

You mean like a boomer?

 

[schuimpjes]

You mean like a boomer?

Don't wanna be so clear here, takut.

and back again it's just a pinch of suspicion, I can't backed it with evidence or anything.

 

[Parry Brima]

Don't wanna be so clear here, takut.

and back again it's just a pinch of suspicion, I can't backed it with evidence or anything.

Takut? I assume you're a grown man.

I'll help you explain. The "FMS version" might not have the "pentil" required for the landing gear.

 

[Barjo_2]

I have a feeling that MoD doesn't want FMS, does anyone here feel the same too? CMIIW

I always see that MoD is always setengah hati if the procurement using FMS scheme.

Yes

 

[schuimpjes]

Takut? I assume you're a grown man.

Wkwk I'm serious here.

I'll help you explain. The "FMS version" might not have the "pentil" required for the landing gear.

FMS's T word is the main reason why I suspicious that MoD doesn't like it.

 

[Umigami]

Wkwk I'm serious here.

FMS's T word is the main reason why I suspicious that MoD doesn't like it.

"Tetek bengek"?
Transparency?

 

[schuimpjes]

"Tetek bengek"?
Transparency?

Hih... dingin² serem

 

[wekiweko]

However F-15 SG, K, SA and QA; F-16 Block 70 are examples of export versions that are better that what being used by USAF at the time of their acquisition