Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Umigami]

I think I'm being specific enough when i type " title holder".

that kid doesn't deserve it

 

[Umigami]

So it's @Umigami huh. That guy/gal is a mod title holder so that fulfilled the criteria.

I never downplay the importance of increasing our military capability!

 

[HellFireIndo]

Today Russian invasion has finally commenced for real, and of course, we gentlemen and ladies of the international community will observe this conflict like the cultured military enjoyers we are.

I have received much info from different OSINT sources (AKA social media), it appears that the Russian advanced at a staggering speed, already occupying several cities. One source also said that at least 1 Russian plane is downed, for now. Heck, this isn't even one day yet and we are witnessing Blitzkrieg in action, in real-time updates.

 

[Lordimperator]

Oh, I just remembered Bayraktar TB2 drone used Ukrainian made engine and there's rumor we'll buy it.

Oh well, say goodbye to Bayraktar drone

Bye sukhoi

 

[HellFireIndo]

Honestly I've been expecting Russia to chose this strategy because they've been using it again and again since previous invasions above 2000. Rather, I'll be surprised if Russia didn't choose this strategy.

Regarding the nature of the conflict itself tho.

There were many speculations, people mostly took lessons learned from previous Russian wars in recent decades in an attempt to guess the Russian strategy. First in mind is the 2008 Georgian War, Russia launched extensive cyberattacks on Georgia to shut down all communication lines in the build-up towards their invasion. Then you have the little green man unconventional operation in the Crimean annexation, that thing caught everyone off guard, so much so that nobody has any idea what to do with them. A bit minor development is probably the use of PMC and non-conventional units, namely Wagner group and various militias Russia supported in Ukraine and elsewhere, people would expect it will be another proxy war or unconventional warfare like in the Middle East.

But none of these is what we see here in the Ukraine invasion. There is no such emphasis on cyberattacks like what we saw in Georgia, as there are many videos from Ukraine that got circulated, so the electricity and communication line is still working. Then, Russia freaking deploys everything, 150.000 troops, to operate in full-scale conventional warfare. So all the speculation about non-conventional warfare got thrown out of the window, it is nothing like whatever the Americans were doing in Afghanistan.

Is conventional warfare back on the menu? Ironically, the US retreat from Afghanistan might be the symbolic end of the era of insurgency warfare, and this Ukraine war the return of conventional war in the modern era.

 

[Lordimperator]

unless Vietnam can do something about it such as making the spare parts

Does India have such capability, it would be good for us tho, they have large number of su families

 

[Madokafc]

Whatever thing Russian doing in this play, the Chinese can do that too at much more massive scale

 

[Lordimperator]

Man, we dodged a fucking missile by canceled Su-35 acquisition. Imagine having to retire new shiny planes...

I feel its a blessing in disguise we are acting slowly in su35 procurements

 

[SpeaX]

Do you guys think we can defend against cruise missile that struck in the mid of airport like this?

As I said before, we should use land based air defense equipments as primary solution in vital locations like airport or industrial park, not relying on ship based air defense to defend such places because once those ships moved to other places, then those places like airports basically become defenseless and can be taken down easily.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496733828014125056

Whatever thing Russian doing in this play, the Chinese can do that too at much more massive scale

Taiwan must learn from this , "peaceful reunification" may imminent. Then like any curiosity out there, I don't know how Uncle SAM will handle if two front are on fire. And for sure, we must be fucked up as well. Then I remember that 2022 pronounces "Twenty Twenty Too", nothing gonna be better - yet . Sigh.

 

[HellFireIndo]

Cri in I am afraid the jets won't come on time lmao

 

[Lordimperator]

Cri in I am afraid the jets won't come on time lmao

Rafale?

In a dire time, hopefully rafale could be delivered throu special service like they did to India

 

[Parry Brima]

Putin really derails this TNI AU sub-forum.

Mods, could you move some of the totally unrelated & sectarian posts to Warkop (the right place for any sectarian posts), and some Ukraine related ones to (perhaps) new sub-forum that's focusing on the conflict.

@Umigami

 

[Required]

If a country with S300, Tor, Buk, and Kub can have this devastating impact against air attack, what will happen with a country with only shorad and Darto Gun? Wkwkwk

Prabowo just need to say, "Bu SriMul, Dong Peng will go brrrr and buuum. We need more money to buy missiles 4.0 to protect our metaverse land!"

Bu Sri Mul "Say No More, "

He easly got footage example how dangerous LACM could be to a nation with weak air def

Need more NASAM

 

[Umigami]

Putin really derails this TNI AU sub-forum.

Mods, could you move some of the totally unrelated & sectarian posts to Warkop (the right place for any sectarian posts), and some Ukraine related ones to (perhaps) new sub-forum that's focusing on the conflict.

@Umigami

I will move new OOT comments

 

[HellFireIndo]

If a country with S300, Tor, Buk, and Kub can have this devastating impact against air attack, what will happen with a country with only shorad and Darto Gun? Wkwkwk

Prabowo just need to say, "Bu SriMul, Dong Peng will go brrrr and buuum. We need more money to buy missiles 4.0 to protect our metaverse land!"

Bu Sri Mul "Say No More, "

I am MBDA salesman, and I'd say that Aster is the solution to everything

 

[Lordimperator]

I will move new OOT comments

thanx for the hard works momod

 

[flogger]

I am MBDA salesman, and I'd say that Aster is the solution to everything

License or non license..?

 

[Lordimperator]

I am MBDA salesman, and I'd say that Aster is the solution to everything

08 in my dream : could we order the Samp/t and land based Mica/camm er please?

 

[Required]

I am MBDA salesman, and I'd say that Aster is the solution to everything

Oh, Of course. Every women, love beautiful flowers.

Aster is the best thing that Prabowo can bring from Europe for Bu Sri Mulyani (flower) and TNI (missiles).

So Sir, how much for 30 Aster?

 

[Lordimperator]

So Sir, how much for 30 Aster?

*Aster 30, or 30 missiles?