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My best guess about Indonesian Air Force Fixed wing asset composition in near future


Attack/Multirole fighter/Air Superiority: Mirage 2000-5 /- 9, F-15 EX, Rafale F4, F-16 A/B/C/D/ block 72, Su 27/30, KF-21

Light fighter/Ground Attack/LIFT: T/A50i, Hawk 109/209

Ground Attack: A 29 Super Tucano

UCAV MALE: CH4B, ANKA S

UAV Recce MALE: Aeronautics Defense Aerostar UAV

UAV Recce light : Aeronautics Defense Orbiter, PUNA Wulung

Recce Aircraft: C295 special mission

Patrol Aircraft: Boeing 737 2X9 , CN 235 MPA , NC212 i recce

Airlifter/Tanker : KC130 B , A400M

Airlifter : C130 B/H/J, L100

Medium Airlifter : CN235, C295

Light Airlifter : NC212

Troops transport/ passenger/VIP : Boeing 737, Dassault Falcon 7X/8X

Trainer : KT1 Wongbi, Grob G120 TP, Cessna C 182, Cessna C172, Cessna T41
 

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My best guess about Indonesian Air Force Fixed wing asset composition in near future


Attack/Multirole fighter/Air Superiority: Mirage 2000-5 /- 9, F-15 EX, Rafale F4, F-16 A/B/C/D/ block 72, Su 27/30, KF-21

Light fighter/Ground Attack/LIFT: T/A50i, Hawk 109/209

Ground Attack: A 29 Super Tucano

UCAV MALE: CH4B, ANKA S

UAV Recce MALE: Aeronautics Defense Aerostar UAV

UAV Recce light : Aeronautics Defense Orbiter, PUNA Wulung

Recce Aircraft: C295 special mission

Patrol Aircraft: Boeing 737 2X9 , CN 235 MPA , NC212 i recce

Airlifter/Tanker : KC130 B , A400M

Airlifter : C130 B/H/J, L100

Medium Airlifter : CN235, C295

Light Airlifter : NC212

Troops transport/ passenger/VIP : Boeing 737, Dassault Falcon 7X/8X

Trainer : KT1 Wongbi, Grob G120 TP, Cessna C 182, Cessna C172, Cessna T41
We have narrow down that fighter line up
 

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Turkish said CH4 automatically turn around above SCS

Hee... really?

From the SCMP
Beijing-based military expert Li Jie said it was appropriate for Chinese UAV developers to make national security the top priority, not their business. It was also “common knowledge” that they embed “watchdog” technologies in products for sale overseas.
“All drones need to be guided by positions connecting with the US-owned GPS or China’s BeiDou navigation system, so it should be very sensitive by longitude and latitude data, allowing developers to embed data information inside its hardware,” he said.
According to Li, this is a mature drone technology that has been developed over decades.

If they could have done it with DJI in Ukraine, then i think its possible.
 

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Which engine should we choose for our F-15EX? GE or PW?
Currently only GE engine is certified for the F-15EX and all F-15EX will be powered with it, meanwhile our F-16 is powered by PW(F100-PW-220) and we are familiar with it, if we choose PW for our F15EX we can choose the latest version of the engine which is (F100-PW-229).

More about the engine:

 
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Which engine should we choose for our F-15EX? GE or PW?
Currently only GE engine is certified for the F-15EX and all F-15EX will be powered with it, meanwhile our F-16 is powered by PW(F100-PW-220) and we are familiar with it, if we choose PW for our F15EX we can choose the latest version of the engine which is (F100-PW-229).

More about the engine:


This should be Air Force or strategic industry related question
 

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Which engine should we choose for our F-15EX? GE or PW?
Currently only GE engine is certified for the F-15EX and all F-15EX will be powered with it, meanwhile our F-16 is powered by PW(F100-PW-220) and we are familiar with it, if we choose PW for our F15EX we can choose the latest version of the engine which is (F100-PW-229).

More about the engine:

This should be Air Force or strategic industry related question
Just use GE engine for both new Eagle and Vipers (if we really get Vipers too).
We will get them faster this way.

PW 229 isn't really same with 220 or interchangeable between new and old Vipers anyway.

Also we will be big GE customers in the future (T50 and IFX) so why not we try to get a good deal with them?
 

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Behavior of most of the opposition anywhere in the world. Weak access to data, taking perspectives out of context.

- Buying a Sukhoi-35 for US$ 80 million, we only get a monument without any training for human resources to fly and maintain it, as well as without spare parts to keep it functioning properly.

- Buying a F-15EX for $US 400 million, we get a worthy alutsista of defensive and diplomatic force for the next 40 years.
 

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I am sure they twist it to suit their narration, $80 mil per unit vs $400 mil per unit.
$80 mil per unit for SU-35 is not so surprising, as for the F-15EX I believe its a packages including spare parts, weapons, training, etc. So actually the price for a single F-15EX is not $400 mil, its less than that but buzzer can say what they want.

#PlengkerIsDeBess.
 

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Lmao and why would you listen to what Chinese media say, of course they would prefer Indonesia to buy SU-35 rather than F-15EX.

If Indonesia get F-15EX China would have a hard time against Indonesia, as for SU-35 not only it is inferior compared to F-15EX but China also have it so they know the limitations and weakness of SU-35.
 

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According to this article F-15EX is slightly more expensive than SU-35.

Those assertions have not been borne out, according to reporting by Air Force Magazine, which cited the per unit flyaway cost of F-15EX in the newly minted contract as $87.7 million, a figure including engines. The same article reported the unit flyaway cost for the latest Lot 14 batch of F-35As as $77.9 million, including its engine.

Rather than complete packages we can just chose ngeteng/pahe: the aircraft itself, minimum infrastructure and equipment to operate the aircraft and training. We can stockpile weapons, spare parts and spare engines and further infrastructure and equipment later.
 
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I'm sure Eagle will come in batches too, just like Rafale.
 

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