Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

Madokafc

Experienced member
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
5,917
Reactions
4 10,058
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
View attachment 7446


Why is it called the "Rudal Kodok"

Seems there is two version of missiles, Kodok is ATGM, Merapi is Manpads
 

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
8,361
Reactions
22 12,853
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
NASAMS II missile radius, credit to @this is crunch
Screenshot_20201126-213621_Chrome.jpg
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,507
Reactions
7 5,314
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
NASAMS II missile radius, credit to @this is crunch
View attachment 7461
Don't let this estimation fool you.
It's true that theoretically ground based Amraam can cover that area, but at the edge of that circle AMRAAM's energy is already being spent out and its effectiveness drod significantly.
I hope we could get AMRAAM ER for sat rudal in the future and let C7 to be exclusively for Fighters.

Edit: and more batteries of course. Ehehe...
 

trishna_amrta

Experienced member
Messages
1,606
Reactions
1,925
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Don't let this estimation fool you.
It's true that theoretically ground based Amraam can cover that area, but at the edge of that circle AMRAAM's energy is already being spent out and its effectiveness drod significantly.
More importantly how will the target will be tracked. Ground based radar is limited in their range simply due to the curvature of Earth, not to mention the amount of tall buildings in Jakarta. Once a missile managed to crossed Jakarta Bay it will be point defence
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,507
Reactions
7 5,314
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
More importantly how will the target will be tracked. Ground based radar is limited in their range simply due to the curvature of Earth, not to mention the amount of tall buildings in Jakarta. Once a missile managed to crossed Jakarta Bay it will be point defence
One more batteries in Kepulauan Seribu then?
 

Madokafc

Experienced member
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
5,917
Reactions
4 10,058
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
One more batteries in Kepulauan Seribu then?

Prefer to put AAW Frigates to be based at Jakarta Lanal, but talking about Kohanudnas from Air Force elements the other preference sites is in Atang or Halim Perdanakusuma
 

trishna_amrta

Experienced member
Messages
1,606
Reactions
1,925
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Prefer to put AAW Frigates to be based at Jakarta Lanal, but talking about Kohanudnas from Air Force elements the other preference sites is in Atang or Halim Perdanakusuma
Deploying it at WIAJ mean the entire presidential office is expected to relocate to Istana Bogor in the event of shooting war coming from the north (not exactly a good option if you ask me). While deploying it at WIHH mean its intent for the protection of Cilangkap (which make better sense to me)
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,507
Reactions
7 5,314
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
FB_IMG_1606654719683.jpg

Source
Operating F16 in huge numbers is the best option afterall.
Come on Mr Prabs enough with your no-single-engine non sense!!
 

Parry Brima

Contributor
Messages
982
Reactions
1 1,057
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
View attachment 7490
Source
Operating F16 in huge numbers is the best option afterall.
Come on Mr Prabs enough with your no-single-engine non sense!!

This data can be misleading. The more you fly obviously the more the operating cost. The better parameter is CPFH. You have to divide the total cost (operating + maintenance) with flight hours. So you can get the idea of the aircraft's efficiency.
 

Gundala

Well-known member
Messages
415
Reactions
1 506
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Operational & Maintenance Cost is part of CPFH (Cost Per Flight Hour).

O & M (mostly Direct Cost) include:
  1. Fuel
  2. Technical Support
  3. Maintenance
  4. Crew
CPFH (Direct and Indirect cost) in summary:
  • Aviation Fuel
  • Consumable Supplies
  • Operation & Maintenance
  • Unit level Manpower
  • System Improvements
  • Capital Charges
  • Depreciation
  • Amortisation
Huge different between them, but O & M is part of CPFH.

CPFH usually count towards as parts of LCC (Life Cycle Cost).

LCC is basically all the cost related to purchasing the assets from innitial Planning until the cost to write them off/destroy them.
 

Chestnut

Active member
Professional
Messages
109
Reactions
166
Also depends if they layered and integrated it with other GBAD assets.

If there's anything you can learn off the current Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, is that you need to have a capable and integrated air defense network that is supported by credible EW assets. Especially if you don't have the material to burn.
 

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
8,361
Reactions
22 12,853
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
interesting
so what missile that have range 70 km?
if I'm not mistaken even essm range are only 50 km
ahhh my bad, even the AMRAAM have only like 50km range

our Missile are likely C7 version
 

Follow us on social media

Latest posts

Top Bottom