Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Lordimperator]

i dont know why the Dassault that push so hard to win

Thats makes me curious too, maybe they got backing from their govt after AUKUS ?

 

[FoodSoldier]

i dont know why the Dassault that push so hard to win deal. Eventhough side give some illness in payment.

If u read the article, u will know the answer.

The same reason why they push hard in India.

 

[Lordimperator]

If u read the article, u will know the answer.

The same reason why they push hard in India.

From this art?
Indonesian runway resurfaces for Dassault Rafale - Meta-Defense.fr

They betting us if we become to be a loyal customer with our gdp projections in the future?

 

[FoodSoldier]

From this art?
Indonesian runway resurfaces for Dassault Rafale - Meta-Defense.fr

They betting us if we become to be a loyal customer with our gdp projections in the future?

Once you taste a frech wine, you’ll be a forever customer…

it’s a foot-in-the-door strategy

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1472649182443835393

Korean trying to sale it on international market right?
I'm sure its ergonomic isn't "korean only".
Pretty close to F16 or F35 I guess.

 

[joedhie2k]

there is a reason why pilots have to be in certain height and weight..
this is not an SUV where the driver can be 155 cm / 45 kg to 190 cm / 150 kg

 

[R4duga]

F3 not F3R

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473563456620040192

 

[Umigami]

F3 not F3R

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473563456620040192

F3 could be F3r. Just like saying F16c without saying which block.

I don think F3 vanilla still in production.

 

[Umigami]

On his latest Vid he was so confident rafale contract will be sign on January. His credibility is in stake here.

 

[Lordimperator]

F3 not F3R

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473563456620040192

Interim MRCA, with the same budget we intended to buy Austrian EF back then?

 

[R4duga]

F3 could be F3r. Just like saying F16c without saying which block.

I don think F3 vanilla still in production.

does F3 and F3R have different airframe ? i dont think so, if it was really F3 without the (R) then we're probably not getting the following things :

The F3-R standard is an evolution of the Rafale F3 standard, with the exceptional versatility being further reinforced. It is part of the ongoing process to continuously improve the aircraft in line with the operational requirements and the feedback from experience of the pilotes. It enables the Air Force and Navy Rafale aircraft to carry the following equipment and weapons:

• The European Meteor long-range air-to-air missile produced by MBDA. This high-performance missile achieves maximum effectiveness thanks to the “active array” radar which equips all production Rafale aircraft delivered since mid-2013.
• The Thales Talios new-generation laser designator pod. Primarily used for air-to-ground strikes, in daylight or darkness, this pod further enhances the high degree of precision that the Rafale has shown since its first engagements (in 2007 in the Afghan theatre).
• The laser homing version of the Safran AASM Air-to-Ground Modular Weapon. This family of weapons, with GPS primary guidance and an additional booster, is unmatched. It enables the Rafale to destroy targets at ranges of several tens of kilometers with metric precision. The laser homing version is particularly adapted to moving targets.

F3 R also includes upgrades to the Rafale sensors and to systems ensuring total interoperability.

but let's have some positive assumption that we'd skip the F3-R to save and ensure the budget, and straightly jump for F4 standard upgrade package in the future.

 

[Umigami]

does F3 and F3R have different airframe ? i dont think so, if it was really F3 without the (R) then we're probably not getting the following things :

The F3-R standard is an evolution of the Rafale F3 standard, with the exceptional versatility being further reinforced. It is part of the ongoing process to continuously improve the aircraft in line with the operational requirements and the feedback from experience of the pilotes. It enables the Air Force and Navy Rafale aircraft to carry the following equipment and weapons:

• The European Meteor long-range air-to-air missile produced by MBDA. This high-performance missile achieves maximum effectiveness thanks to the “active array” radar which equips all production Rafale aircraft delivered since mid-2013.
• The Thales Talios new-generation laser designator pod. Primarily used for air-to-ground strikes, in daylight or darkness, this pod further enhances the high degree of precision that the Rafale has shown since its first engagements (in 2007 in the Afghan theatre).
• The laser homing version of the Safran AASM Air-to-Ground Modular Weapon. This family of weapons, with GPS primary guidance and an additional booster, is unmatched. It enables the Rafale to destroy targets at ranges of several tens of kilometers with metric precision. The laser homing version is particularly adapted to moving targets.

F3 R also includes upgrades to the Rafale sensors and to systems ensuring total interoperability.

but let's have some positive assumption that we'd skip the F3-R to save and ensure the budget, and straightly jump for F4 standard upgrade package in the future.

All rafale use the same airframe.
And Rafale without Meteor is a SUPER SHIT deal!
Just buy "dessert falcon" at that point!

 

[R4duga]

meanwhile

"Fadjar mengaku, tim dari F-15EX sudah menemuinya untuk membahas rencana pengadaan pesawat tempur tersebut. ”Ini sedikit informasi, F-15 EX timnya sudah datang ke saya. Saya tanya kalau hari ini kita sepakat unit awal pertama yang akan kita terima kira-kira kapan? Jawabannya ya kira-kira tahun 2027,” ujarnya.

"Fadjar admitted that the team from the F-15EX had met him to discuss the plan to procure the fighter aircraft. "This is a little information, the F-15 EX team has come to me, I asked if today we agreed on the first initial unit , when will we receive it? The answer is around 2027, "he said.

https://www.antaranews.com/berita/2600597/tni-au-pastikan-beli-pesawat-tempur-rafale-dan-f-15-ex

 

[Umigami]

but let's have some positive assumption that we'd skip the F3-R to save and ensure the budget, and straightly jump for F4 standard upgrade package in the future.

I don't think 08 that foreseeable in air force matter.

 

[Umigami]

meanwhile

"Fadjar mengaku, tim dari F-15EX sudah menemuinya untuk membahas rencana pengadaan pesawat tempur tersebut. ”Ini sedikit informasi, F-15 EX timnya sudah datang ke saya. Saya tanya kalau hari ini kita sepakat unit awal pertama yang akan kita terima kira-kira kapan? Jawabannya ya kira-kira tahun 2027,” ujarnya.

"Fadjar admitted that the team from the F-15EX had met him to discuss the plan to procure the fighter aircraft. "This is a little information, the F-15 EX team has come to me, I asked if today we agreed on the first initial unit , when will we receive it? The answer is around 2027, "he said.

https://www.antaranews.com/berita/2600597/tni-au-pastikan-beli-pesawat-tempur-rafale-dan-f-15-ex

Even on Rafale case AH said Bach 1 will be delivered in 2025 (if contract signed on January 2022)

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473610893342625796

 

[NEKO]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473610893342625796

Blin !

Very likely we won't be purchasing any Russian jet fighter in the future, unless the west try to pull another "embargoes and sanctions" card again.
IMO France is quite independent and won't easily bow to US demands.

 

[NEKO]

When you realized that F15 EX use flying boom for aerial refueling then the A400M "air tanker" will be useless to support the old F16 and F15 EX.

 

[Van Kravchenko]

When you realized that F15 EX use flying boom for aerial refueling then the A400M "air tanker" will be useless to support the old F16 and F15 EX.

This also the expression of Russophille fansboy rightnow, my deepest condolence for them.

 

[Umigami]

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