Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[trishna_amrta]

I'd argue that at our current technological competence level, it's still a few steps ahead for us to develop a loyal wingman drone instead of a manned jet fighter aircraft.

ehhhmm.. its actually far more behind. Anything with the buzzword "autonomous" need not only AI enabled chip as their brain, but also serious human capital to write the algorithm. And so far I have yet to see any even in commercial / industrial application

 

[Lordimperator]

And so far I have yet to see any even in commercial / industrial application

Genose covid machine learning

 

[trishna_amrta]

BTW, guys let's not forget about this shall we. This plane can defy gravity

 

[Umigami]

BTW, guys let's not forget about this shall we. This plane can defy gravity

Can we use it to go to Planet Namek?

 

[trishna_amrta]

Genose covid machine learning

Different things. Machine learning is actually more about collecting as much data as possible from what look like as random source in order to find pattern in it.

 

[Madokafc]

BTW, guys let's not forget about this shall we. This plane can defy gravity

 

[Lordimperator]

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Madam C* waiting for Su35

 

[Madokafc]

Dassault Falcon 7x in Indonesian Air Force livery

Credits to original owner

 

[Umigami]

Dassault Falcon 7x in Indonesian Air Force livery

Credits to original owner

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Part of Rafale deal?

 

[Madokafc]

Part of Rafale deal?

Don't know, i am no Dassault guy

But still beautiful, more beautiful if it got Israel Made equipment especially radar, sensor and other ECM suite

 

[Umigami]

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Don't know, i am no Dassault guy

But still beautiful, more beautiful if it got Israel Made equipment especially radar, sensor and other ECM suite

I hope this won't become another AW101 scandal.

 

[Lordimperator]

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Don't know, i am no Dassault guy

But still beautiful, more beautiful if it got Israel Made equipment especially radar, sensor and other ECM suite

Second hand?

 

[Twentix]

Second hand?

Yes

 

[Umigami]

Boeing's $14 billion Indonesia jet deal stalls over financing

Boeing Co.'s proposed sale of 36 new F-15 fighter jets and equipment to Indonesia has hit a snag over financing, according to people familiar with the matter.

www.stripes.com

Boeing is concerned about the ability of Southeast Asia's biggest economy to finance the jets, with Indonesia insisting on paying in installments, said the people. The meetings ended without a conclusive outcome, meaning plans to sign the deal before the end of this year will likely be delayed, they said.

Maybe it's time for you to shine, @Madokafc ?

 

[FoodSoldier]

Everyone pay with installment. I think the problem is on the choice of lender. Boeing may have their own lender who is not what the MoD proposed (remember Qatar vs UAE lender leak?)

 

[Parry Brima]

Boeing's $14 billion Indonesia jet deal stalls over financing

Boeing Co.'s proposed sale of 36 new F-15 fighter jets and equipment to Indonesia has hit a snag over financing, according to people familiar with the matter.

www.stripes.com

Boeing is concerned about the ability of Southeast Asia's biggest economy to finance the jets, with Indonesia insisting on paying in installments, said the people. The meetings ended without a conclusive outcome, meaning plans to sign the deal before the end of this year will likely be delayed, they said.

Maybe it's time for you to shine, @Madokafc ?

Considering that SMI loves Top Gun 1-2 so much, maybe what she wants is SHornet Block III.

It's the cheapest of all as well.

 

[Parry Brima]

I'm starting to suspect that Boeing ask us to pay $14 bil for 36 F-15EX (compare that to Finland $9.4 bil for 64 F-35) because they want us to pay for their $2.5 bil penalty due to 737 MAX failure.

edit : they allegedly lost many 737 MAX orders as well

 

[Umigami]

I'm starting to suspect that Boeing ask us to pay $14 bil for 36 F-15EX (compare that to Finland $9.4 bil for 64 F-35) because they want us to pay for their $2.5 bil penalty due to 737 MAX failure.

edit : they allegedly lost many 737 MAX orders as well

if they're that desperate why deny installments sceme?

 

[Parry Brima]

if they're that desperate why deny installments sceme?

It's not about the installments, more about the number ($14 bil).

Btw, FMS scheme means we pay to the US Government, not to the manufacturer.

 

[Umigami]

Everyone pay with installment. I think the problem is on the choice of lender. Boeing may have their own lender who is not what the MoD proposed (remember Qatar vs UAE lender leak?)

It's not about the installments, more about the number ($14 bil).

Btw, FMS scheme means we pay to the US Government, not to the manufacturer.

Us -> Creditor -> US govt -> Boeing

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