Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[adenl]

If you call that "untrustworthy partner", what do you call the French in their involvement in the Eurofighter project (that eventually give birth to both Typhoon & Rafale)?

Real world business doesn't work based upon good feeling, it works by being pragmatic

Because they could design and create their own fighter jet back then. Indonesia can't. Beggars can't be choosers. Don't compare apples and oranges.

 

[trishna_amrta]

Because they could design and create their own fighter jet back then. Indonesia can't. Beggars can't be choosers. Don't compare apples and oranges.

What make you think there is even a practical need for begging? What its need is $$$. As I had stated earlier real world business run on being pragmatic, or should I add pragmatic - transactional

 

[joedhie2k]

My question is whether that article is based on latest nov agreement or some new development. Seems there is no further talk between two countries after nov.

Kinda moot to discuss if it was based on unclear condition before nov.

 

[Mandala]

My question is whether that article is based on latest nov agreement or some new development. Seems there is no further talk between two countries after nov.

Kinda moot to discuss if it was based on unclear condition before nov.

That is what i was thinking. Looks like this news were'nt updated.

"In addition to the withheld payments, Indonesia did not send back the 114 technical specialists from its aerospace firm PT Dirgantara Indonesia, who were repatriated in March due to outbreaks of the coronavirus in South Korea."

^ Afaik Indonesia did sent back PTDI techinicians.

"The agency also told Shin in a separate reply that current press reports did not reflect Indonesia’s official position on the matter, and that any military deal it was pursuing “appears to be going forward independently of the KF-X joint development” project."

 

[Madokafc]

That is what i was thinking. Looks like this news were'nt updated.

"In addition to the withheld payments, Indonesia did not send back the 114 technical specialists from its aerospace firm PT Dirgantara Indonesia, who were repatriated in March due to outbreaks of the coronavirus in South Korea."

^ Afaik Indonesia did sent back PTDI techinicians.

"The agency also told Shin in a separate reply that current press reports did not reflect Indonesia’s official position on the matter, and that any military deal it was pursuing “appears to be going forward independently of the KF-X joint development” project."

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but they are in some way still being party of the projects and trying to gather fund for the KFX/IFX project. The one got terminated so decisively is the Submarine deal.

 

[R4duga]

Chinook ?

https://www.facebook.com/lembagakeris/posts/3274900769284910

 

[R4duga]

C-130 J ?

https://www.facebook.com/lembagakeris/posts/3274912089283778

 

[R4duga]

both budget allocation only measured at near 90 million USD , i hope that just the initial payment (DP) , because if it was really 90 million , we can only get like 2-3 chinook , or 1 C-130 J .

 

[Madokafc]

So far so good, that's mean this Prabowo guy at least had some semblance of urgency and fiscal disciplin. WE DON'T HAVE MOD yesterday

 

[Basith90]

Chinook ?

https://www.facebook.com/lembagakeris/posts/3274900769284910

I thought Chinook were supposed to be Army procurement right?

But I guess its impossible the recent Hangar queen Aw-101 will be chosen?

 

[R4duga]

I thought Chinook were supposed to be Army procurement right?

But I guess its impossible the recent Hangar queen Aw-101 will be chosen?

lets hope not ......

 

[Basith90]

both budget allocation only measured at near 90 million USD , i hope that just the initial payment (DP) , because if it was really 90 million , we can only get like 2-3 chinook , or 1 C-130 J .

Well I'm frankly surprissed the budged which the contract will Be held at Jan 21 for airforce is quite bigger than Navy..

Are those for different payment scheme?

 

[R4duga]

Well I'm frankly surprissed the budged which the contract will Be held at Jan 21 for airforce is quite bigger than Navy..

Are those for different payment scheme?

i don't know about the payment scheme thing .

let's wait for the moment of truth , either SU-35 or the Eurocanard Typhoon will come ...

https://www.facebook.com/lembagakeris/photos/a.295458637229153/3276000489174938

 

[l3onhard]

i don't know about the payment scheme thing .

let's wait for the moment of truth , either SU-35 or the Eurocanard Typhoon will come ...

https://www.facebook.com/lembagakeris/photos/a.295458637229153/3276000489174938

I guess it is for sukhoi 35

 

[Chestnut]

i don't know about the payment scheme thing .

let's wait for the moment of truth , either SU-35 or the Eurocanard Typhoon will come ...

https://www.facebook.com/lembagakeris/photos/a.295458637229153/3276000489174938

It's not going to be the Flanker, the recent CAATSA sanctions against Turkey is a testament to that fact.

 

[Soman45]

It's not going to be the Flanker, the recent CAATSA sanctions against Turkey is a testament to that fact.

but that's the only one that we already sign contract for F-5 replacement well maybe i'm wrong.....

 

[joedhie2k]

maybe kemenhan has some scapegoat to receive the CAATSA sanction.. that person/company can be middleman for all pending deals with the russian

 

[Basith90]

maybe kemenhan has some scapegoat to receive the CAATSA sanction.. that person/company can be middleman for all pending deals with the russian

Well it can be. . .

I hope its gonna be Typhon or whatever that can increase our muscle. *Never thought any stuff from Rusia

 

[Parry Brima]

i don't know about the payment scheme thing .

let's wait for the moment of truth , either SU-35 or the Eurocanard Typhoon will come ...

https://www.facebook.com/lembagakeris/photos/a.295458637229153/3276000489174938

SU-35? The U.S. will give us CAATSA waiver because we hold much more strategic position than Turkey in terms of China's threat?

Anyway, my guess would be for Typhoon.

 

[Umigami]

Is it posible they make the fund available because we already get sukhoi contract, but in the end they pay it for something else?
Boleh begitu?