Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[trishna_amrta]

That Typhoon is still going on?
BIG FACEPLAM*

Typhoon YAAAY. I just put this here

And also remember its integral part of the Airbus future System of a System

 

[Parry Brima]

36 Rafale plus 36 F15EX is already more than 70 planes of the top line fighter available in the market. Not to mention there is interim program already in the place and waiting for budget agreement in place for 15 Typhoon.

Once we get that 15 Austrian Typhoon T1, the door will be wide open for us to get more used Typhoon or even the latest T3/T4.

Typhoon YAAAY. I just put this here

And also remember its integral part of the Airbus future System of a System

Need more Typhoon love in here .

 

[Madokafc]

Don't put all of your eggs in the same basket

 

[Umigami]

@Madokafc any update about F15ex?
Biden approval, DSCA, or anything?

 

[trishna_amrta]

DSCA, or anything?

The most recent DCSA notification was for Block C Osprey.

Most likely the whole news about the F-15EX is bogus anyway just for the hype

 

[Umigami]

The most recent DCSA notification was for Block C Osprey.

Most likely the whole news about the F-15EX is bogus anyway just for the hype

It's not gonna be good for 08 then

 

[frashis79]

Once we get that 15 Austrian Typhoon T1, the door will be wide open for us to get more used Typhoon or even the latest T3/T4.



Need more Typhoon love in here .

well uk wants to retired 53 typhoon, so who knows we can get theirs also

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[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1368114705592545281

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Typhoon YAAAY. I just put this here

And also remember its integral part of the Airbus future System of a System

if you're the one who say Thypoon will come i think it will come.

But hey, put rafale, thypoon, Kfx alltogather didnt bring huge benefit to us..

I mean with rafale you'll get some TOT but have a more US$ spend for infrastructure, etc.

For thypoon its an old air frame and perhaps didnt as capable as IDAF newly retrofitted F 16.

And here our KFX wich didnt go any serial productiion.

All of the three have MTOW above 50,000 lbs.

For today warfare i think AShM and Precise Guidr Munition is a neccesary.
Judging from all of the list above, its ended up for my consclusion that our MOD mostly buy what he want, not the user want

 

[wekiweko]

actually if we have any shame left, we would have paid our shares or retreat from the program.

this administration didn't show much attention for strategic arms industry and purchase I must admit.

the Republic of Korea can off course build the jets with or without our participation, I hope whomever involved in the Indonesian side realized this and stop the dilly dallying with payments.

I second your opinion. At this juncture we really need to make up our mind, whether we want to stay and thus fulfill our commitment or whether we want to withdraw and make it clear to our counterpart and fulfill any outstanding commitment up to the date of withdrawal.

I believe withdrawing from the cooperation would cause more drawback than benefit, especially considering the time and resource that have been spent for nothing.

I have this "khayalan babu" thing, seeing that USAF is considering an F-35 lite to supplant its 5th gen fighter fleet and fill in the low cost fighter slot in USAF's fighter mix, and taking into account LM already have good cooperation with KAI, maybe just maybe, KFX can be that F-35 lite. In such a case, it would be such a loss if we withdraw from the cooperation with SK

 

[Parry Brima]

I have this "khayalan babu" thing, seeing that USAF is considering an F-35 lite to supplant its 5th gen fighter fleet and fill in the low cost fighter slot in USAF's fighter mix, and taking into account LM already have good cooperation with KAI, maybe just maybe, KFX can be that F-35 lite. In such a case, it would be such a loss if we withdraw from the cooperation with SK

I highly doubt this. What USAF Chief of Staff, Gen. Charles Brown, wants is to develop brand new 4.5th gen fighter using the digital engineering technique that Boeing used to develop T-7A Red Hawk trainer jet.

Boeing only needed 3 years to develop T-7A from computer screen to its first flight. USAF wants to repeat this feat to develop their new 4.5th gen.

US Air Force eyes budget-conscious, clean-sheet fighter jet to replace the F-16

An ongoing study will help the Air Force decide whether to add more types of tactical aircraft to its inventory.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Umigami]

I highly doubt this. What USAF Chief of Staff, Gen. Charles Brown, wants is to develop brand new 4.5th gen fighter using the digital engineering technique that Boeing used to develop T-7A Red Hawk trainer jet.

Boeing only needed 3 years to develop T-7A from computer screen to its first flight. USAF wants to repeat this feat to develop their new 4.5th gen.

US Air Force eyes budget-conscious, clean-sheet fighter jet to replace the F-16

An ongoing study will help the Air Force decide whether to add more types of tactical aircraft to its inventory.

www.defensenews.com

But KFX already on prototype stage.

 

[wekiweko]

yes, as KFX is no longer a design on paper and can be physically seen come April 1st, I think we can do a bit "ngayal babu" about its chance for F-35 lite

 

[Parry Brima]

But KFX already on prototype stage.

Exactly. He didn't talk about opening up a tender for international providers (like US Navy for FREMM). His aims is to develop it in-house using the most advanced digital engineering technique that the US have.

 

[Umigami]

Exactly. He didn't talk about opening up a tender for international providers (like US Navy for FREMM). His aims is to develop it in-house using the most advanced digital engineering technique that the US have.

Oh okay...
It's actually a good thing for us.
I can imagine korea will just dump their unreliable partner and team up with LM if USAF ever considered KFX.

 

[Parry Brima]

Oh okay...
It's actually a good thing for us.
I can imagine korea will just dump their unreliable partner and team up with LM if USAF ever considered KFX.

Being dumped or not, I still want to see TNI AU operate KFX block-3 (the 5th gen version) in the future

 

[NEKO]

April 1st

It won't be a prank isn't it?

Didn't US already test flight a new fighter prototype? I don't think that they will be interested with KFX.

 

[wekiweko]

It won't be a prank isn't it?

Didn't US already test flight a new fighter prototype? I don't think that they will be interested with KFX.

i think the image of KFX being assembled is all around the world wide web, among others:

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Why won't they? at least the possibility is there.

 

[NEKO]

i think the image of KFX being assembled is all around the world wide web, among others:

It'll be around end april not april 1st.

 

[wekiweko]

It'll be around end april not april 1st.

regardless