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YeahHitfact with 120mm high pressure, is it using the ammo with Nato 120mm
Is it true Harimau MT cost $7 mil each?
Nah its not that cheap, less than $7 mil. $6.75 mil, but I wonder the price for the other costumer (ToT excluded).2019 contract: US$ 20 mil for 18 units.
So around 1.1 mil each.
most of kill achieved within 2 km, good luck with that 5km stuff guiding a laser beam. it will be another case if you talk about Javelin or hellfire. humidity, temperature, curvature apply much effect on laser.5 km away.
Kaplan from this lot is different from prototype. is it possible this expensive price because of redesign, changing gearbox, etc ?Nah its not that cheap, less than $7 mil. $6.75 mil, but I wonder the price for the other costumer (ToT excluded).
On 12 April the Ministry of Defence (MoD) in Jakarta signed a letter of intent (LOI) with PT Pindad for the procurement of up to 20 Kaplan MTs – known locally as the Harimau – for USD135 million, an MoD source told Jane’s on 18 April.
Indonesia signs LOI with PT Pindad for Kaplan medium tanks
Indonesia has reaffirmed its interest in acquiring the Kaplan MT Modern Medium Weight Tank (MMWT) developed by Turkish company FNSS Savunma Sistemleri and Indonesian...www.janes.com
Cough... Cough...
Cough... cough... Leo 2 commonality...
Cough... cough... Nexter 120 munition...
Cough...
Show me the $€£Fine, as long as we put an order of at least 300 MBTs at once.
My opinion, it should be done before 2024, atleast for defending IKN in Borneo. Let me a little bit off topic, back then when Madokafc said some rumout about Mindef Is choosing between land or naval SAM (aegis destroyer) platform. Maybe if Mindef cease the latter they would choose the land based SAM first.Do you think they'll be able to finish choosing SAM before 2024 election?
Not effective contract, just choosing.
Well yeah. That's why one of the point in this post:Show me the $€£
Harapan ini tidak didapatkan dari pembelian Leopard 2, karena ToT yang diberikan hanyalah pemeliharaan dan perawatan kendaraan. Selain itu, tidak terdapat ToT suku cadang ataupun munisi yang signifikan di pembelian ini.
Indonesia's share in the joint development cost of $30 million was $20 million2019 contract: US$ 20 mil for 18 units.
So around 1.1 mil each.
With 30mm RCWS. This one definitely bring so much firepower
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Indonesia's share in the joint development cost of $30 million was $20 million
The cost of the contract for the Harimau tanks was $ 135 million. The number of vehicles ordered was not officially disclosed, but, according to the head of the defense division PT Pindad Vijayanto, is 18-20 tanks (the final number must also be determined depending on the cost of equipment). PT Pindad of the Indonesian Army should be supplied within three years.
That places the costs (excluding the development costs) at around $7-8 million a piece - IMO a ridiculous price (maybe someone got his private pockets in that deal)
2019 contract: US$ 20 mil for 18 units.
So around 1.1 mil each.
From this video, I noted that Badak costed 45 billion IDR, or 3.17 million USD per unit. Back in 2014 the cost is projected about 25 billion USD per vehicle or 2.18 million USD adjusted for inflation.
Hanwha Tarantula is about 3.95 million USD after adjusted for inflation.
It is also said that the civilian version of Komodo (?) is 15 billion IDR, or 1.05 million USD
I also noted (not from this video) that Sabrah light tank ordered by Philippines from Israel costed about 8.6 million USD each, assuming that they're only ordered 20 vehicle in the first batch which costed 172 million USD. Pindad Harimau is about 7 million USD.
Update on this: It looks like they also included 10 units Pandur with 105 mm gun (similar to Pindad Cobra but with Israel cannon and Hitfact turret) in their first batch. If we assume it has the same price as our Cobra, it will be about 36 million USD in cost. So 172-36 = 136 million USD for 20 Sabrah light tanks (6.8 million USD per tank).
If we use Philippines gov website as the reference, the contract is valued at 183 million USD, that means 183-36 = 147 million USD for 20 Sabrah light tanks (7.3 million USD per tank).
this Borzuk somehow resemble Kaplan MT hull, thus make me courious where did they place the engineI have posted it before, I will post it here again. Such a price is not uncommon for a new "light" tank whose producer can't make all the equipment and part in-house. The turret itself may have cost about 3-4 million USD.
From my post here
and my post here
Borsuk IFV is about 6.6 million USD, half of it was the price of the turret
for me it's looks more or less like Abrams M1A5 from BF 2042 especially the front hull...the turret is more like K2
For comparison Borsuk IFV program costed about USD 20 millionIndonesia's share in the joint development cost of $30 million was $20 million
At the front, look at the 4th photo of the tweet above. It has longer frontal slope than Kaplan MT/Harimau, and it also placed their driver at the left of the engine.this Borzuk somehow resemble Kaplan MT hull, thus make me courious where did they place the engine
doesn't make sense, the problem is the number not the product
Rheinmetall Panther, Leo 2, K2, K1A1, Czech T72:
I would assume that Indonesia is plagued by the same issues as e.g. Malaysia, Philippines and some other S.E.A. countries.doesn't make sense, the problem is the number not the product
why they trying to buy a different one then?
the same price for leopard 2A7 & 7 Bayraktar TB 2, is that the price for independence or is there a kickback?Indonesia's share in the joint development cost of $30 million was $20 million
The cost of the contract for the Harimau tanks was $ 135 million. The number of vehicles ordered was not officially disclosed, but, according to the head of the defense division PT Pindad Vijayanto, is 18-20 tanks (the final number must also be determined depending on the cost of equipment). PT Pindad of the Indonesian Army should be supplied within three years.
That places the costs (excluding the development costs) at around $7-8 million a piece - IMO a ridiculous price (maybe someone got his private pockets in that deal)
Independence locally manufactured "karya anak bangsa"?is that the price for independence or is there a kickback?
some people in twitter pointed out they're going to use the Latest Safran Paseo panoramic sight, the same thing that was used on EBRC Jaguar and our Harimau/Kaplan Cockerill 3000 turret.