Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

[AzeriTank]

Harimau is tall because the hull it self is quite tall, can some one repost image of our Leo 2 and Harimau that is parked side by side, I think its somewhere in this thread.

As i said, nowadays, with hard kill protection systems, thermal cameras, drones, it doesnt really matter much how tall you are, new FCS will be able to see and shoot at you. Many countries believe the hight of tank is important to be able to withstand mines and EADs. Also, all new fighting vehicles are designed in a way that you are always add armor in case of need. Also, its super hard to get an engine over 800-1000hp. Look at what happened to Turkish Altay tank project. Thats why you have to give some tradoffs until 2025 When Turkey at least have these technologies in hand.
i to be honest also believe that you need to choose a heavier version with 8x8. 40 ton 8x8 has almost same protection of 50 ton IFV with the pallets. You see the driver side window here, all those front side was the added protection fhat i believe could even stand against tank round and first UK went with this design of Puma which is 37 ton. The future is there, you need more protection

 

[Umigami]

I don't know if this real Balitbang Pusenkav or not.

 

[Umigami]

I don't know if this real Balitbang Pusenkav or not.

I hope they could find proper partner like FNSS or Aselsan instead of going alone and ended up as 1001 prototype.

 

[R4duga]

I hope they could find proper partner like FNSS or Aselsan instead of going alone and ended up as 1001 prototype.

or Norinco

 

[Madokafc]

or Norinco

they made some cool and cheap turret tank in NATO standard though

 

[Umigami]

I don't know if this real Balitbang Pusenkav or not.

Update:

Defence Projects / Contracts – PT. SAS Aero Sishan

sas-aero.id

But this is definitely Cockerill 3105!
What? Whining about it for too pricey but ended making the very same thing?!

 

[Umigami]

Astross

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1625579881890209804

 

[Gary]

Astross

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1625579881890209804

Embraer?

 

[Umigami]

Embraer?

I bet it's Avibras, they're struggling financially much more than Embaer.

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1625941011104153604

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1625941011104153604

is there any sign regarding batch ii order of Hartam?

 

[Umigami]

is there any sign regarding batch ii order of Hartam?

Just like Madoka posted, we have to find a way to make them cheaper.

For me one of the solution is order huge quantity of them but...

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Update:

Defence Projects / Contracts – PT. SAS Aero Sishan

sas-aero.id

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But this is definitely Cockerill 3105!
What? Whining about it for too pricey but ended making the very same thing?!

Yeah it is just next development from CT 3105, let alone the aluminium hull of HarTam still high. Not only to accomodate turret basket, the hull also need to accomodate torsion bar suspension, elercticity, etc.

As long as the turret ring is sufficient enought to handle any type of turret, you can switch and swap the turret.

Who knows perhaps they can made localize version of BMPT.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1626073864802537473

 

[R4duga]

I bet it's Avibras, they're struggling financially much more than Embaer.

it's embraer https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GrttaH-XEcI

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1626011482898022401

Situation Harimau could find itself in

 

[Madokafc]

Future land warfare actually using unmanned ground combat vehicles, big data AI would be a thing to control regiment sized armor units, where the control rooms located a safe distance from actual frontline. The artillery (tube artillery and MLRS) would using plethora of UAV to give accurate enemies position and rain down the enemies position using steel rain.

Infantry better trying to hold themselves into new position before UGCV got matured and put them into an awkward position.

Ukraine Russian war, actually in my opinion has reached the hybrid stage between of traditional warfare we already know for millenia when human control most of the aspect in war and the using of AI to help decision maker to gain the most optimal results.

 

[Madokafc]

Just Kopassus chief visit to PT PINDAD looking for their new portofolio

 

[afiq]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1625511040963297281

Cool toys for special forced... But probably hard to detect traps

 

[NEKO]

For me one of the solution is order huge quantity of them but...

With so many imported parts its understandable the reluctance to order in large number.