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a fellow formiler from facebook sharing a possible marawi style urban warfare exercise done near cikarang bekasi just recently .
not gonna imagine if that tiny punny tracked recon vehicle being hit by AT gun or big calibre gun.

Their ANOA seems equiped with CIS 50 cal HMG.
Bring such air defennce system is a wise choice in case of total war broke out, minus you cant employ radar while moving
 

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not gonna imagine if that tiny punny tracked recon vehicle being hit by AT gun or big calibre gun.

Their ANOA seems equiped with CIS 50 cal HMG.
Bring such air defennce system is a wise choice in case of total war broke out, minus you cant employ radar while moving

Well , what could i say .... IFV's class were not on the highlist at the moment .
 

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manpads launchers seem to be manned,or am i seeing wrong?
mistral on komodo platform is manned , the only remote controled mistral in TNI AD arsenal are based on sherpa 2 platform .1621182984337.png

i haven't heard any mistral procurement in recent year / month , TNI AD probably are trying to creating commonality with the starstreak , i wonder if we receive any TOT by buying a dozen battery of starstreak system .
 

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mistral on komodo platform is manned , the only remote controled mistral in TNI AD arsenal are based on sherpa 2 platform .View attachment 20929

i haven't heard any mistral procurement in recent year / month , TNI AD probably are trying to creating commonality with the starstreak , i wonder if we receive any TOT by buying a dozen battery of starstreak system .
+ Poprad (Indonesia has renamed Aster) I think, how many of those were purchased?
I am sure if government has intended to do a whole upgrade or mass purchase of vehicle mounted manpads, local companies with a concortium could easily pull an RC station design (Such as Len + Pindad). Probably they are not seeing sufficient demand and not working from scratch for a few orders.
 

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Solid stock SS1 variant or FN FNC?

 

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Bring such air defennce system is a wise choice in case of total war broke out, minus you cant employ radar while moving
Its possible to use radar while moving but of course we don't have it yet, we can't use control master 200 but maybe smart hunter can be used when moving slowly?
 

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IMHO Army solution for their air defense capability is reasonably apt, modern mobile Short range SAM is more adequate to handle new challenge such as combat drone and attack helicopters in which most of them already being equipped with quite a range ground attack Missiles in which out of range for most of any medium caliber gun based AA Defense system. If they can get mobile jammer system like Koral it would be better.
 

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IMHO Army solution for their air defense capability is reasonably apt, modern mobile Short range SAM is more adequate to handle new challenge such as combat drone and attack helicopters in which most of them already being equipped with quite a range ground attack Missiles in which out of range for most of any medium caliber gun based AA Defense system. If they can get mobile jammer system like Koral it would be better.
But combination of gun and missile on a single platform will be good right? It can complement each other.

Its the Army so I think what they need to do is how to protect their units, for the AF they should thinking about how to protect their assigned area/territory.
 

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But combination of gun and missile on a single platform will be good right? It can complement each other.

Its the Army so I think what they need to do is how to protect their units, for the AF they should thinking about how to protect their assigned area/territory.

How about S60? They seem so eager to use them for at least a Century worth usage
 

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Well , what could i say .... IFV's class were not on the highlist at the moment .
Sadly, that was the truth.
Perhaps you fully noted it before me that even the number of curret APC still far far away from proper standard operational. Not to mention its quality still questionable.

Its possible to use radar while moving but of course we don't have it yet, we can't use control master 200 but maybe smart hunter can be used when moving slowly?
Its both yes and no.

If it was manned turret of mistral surely it didnt bear the automatic system as unmanned, that mean both fire and tracking target its fully dependence on gunner prowess. Yes, that vehicle has a high mobility and fire at mobile, minus no radar assistance and guidance.


If the vehiche has un manned turret with no radar but capaple to integrate with radar, it has no canche to move while firing.

Radar and CIC need big amount of electricity, and they are hard enough to move with all battery are installed ( i mean, every vehicle connected with huge cable, and we expect them to move along ?).

Even AA vehicle with integrated rasar still have limited capability to shoot while moving.

CMMIW
 

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How about S60? They seem so eager to use them for at least a Century worth usage
Old cold war stuff that still can work till now will be guaranteed to still work for a long time in the future, the only problem is its outdated, if somehow we can modernized it, add sensor - processing system - actuator etc.
We may have our own kw3 skyshield.
 

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How about S60? They seem so eager to use them for at least a Century worth usage
As long as it can fire, and connected to FCS, its still pack a punch for shorad, more punch if has programable variable fuse.

The downside is the ammo clip is too heavy and too little
 

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Solid stock SS1 variant or FN FNC?

SS 1 V3 Pindad. FN FNC handguard is have horizontal serrations. All SS1 version using vertical serration to differentiate it with FN FNC
 

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Do we have any system that can hit target with Airburst munitions other than sky shield system? Are those S60 have proximity fuze munitions?
 
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