Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

[Gary]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2968937063433288&id=100009510715537

Is Monaco ordering any leopard?

I think this represents existing Leo 2 operator, we have Turkish flag which is not ordering any Leo 2s

 

[schuimpjes]

Textron offering seem to be the most practical & less risky route.

I think SIG Sauer is the less risky offer. The Textron one is kind of weird

 

[Shadow94]

 

[flogger]

I think this represents existing Leo 2 operator, we have Turkish flag which is not ordering any Leo 2s

Well in the old kaskus it's be like menilik dari yang tersirat or utak atik matuk than like tada..the news be like we will get another batch of leo 2a5's...

 

[Gary]

.the news be like we will get another batch of leo 2a5's...

So we're happy with L/44 then ?

Hoping that Cavalry could get the L/55 equipped A7

 

[NEKO]

Alcotan 100 m2 certification (instalanza)
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They are testing the reusable variant of C 90 and C90 CS, including rifle grenade. Seems they want to materialized the planning to increase platoon level firepower and one with Spanish solution View attachment 25353 View attachment 25354 View attachment 25355

Did they test it near some rice field? I hope the missile didn't lock-on to the tractor nearby.

 

[flogger]

Dont take it seriously...

 

[R4duga]

nice to hear dislitbangad are now considering the reloadable variants of C-90 and Alcotan M100 (even though im still craving for that SAAB bofors M4 Carl Gustaf , but i guess instalaza was choosen for "economical" reason) , i really hope we buy a bulk thousand of this for our tonban and if lucky able to get license production permit for PT.Pindad

 

[R4duga]

Hmm, I wonder though, since we already have the C-90 in quantity for some time, does it still need to be tested? Or was this another version of the C-90, like single-use C-90 CS for confined space and the reusable C-90?

Speaking of the latter, since the Alcotan-100 is also reusable, won't that make things redundant?

i think alcotan is semi reusable , they can only reuse the optical firing control unit , but you need to simply throw off the whole firing tube and attach the new tube into the optical firing control unit , not reloading/inserting a discrete round into the tube like the C90 Reloadable variants , it works kinda like ERYX , Javelin.

 

[NEKO]

nice to hear dislitbangad are now considering the reloadable variants of C-90 and Alcotan M100 (even though im still craving for that SAAB bofors M4 Carl Gustaf , but i guess instalaza was choosen for "economical" reason) , i really hope we buy a bulk thousand of this for our tonban and if lucky able to get license production permit for PT.Pindad

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Would be nice to license produce this or gustav, TBH i am not confident with our SLT (currently in development). Or getting assistance to develop our SLT is also nice, if successful we can move forward with the guided version.

 

[Madokafc]

nice to hear dislitbangad are now considering the reloadable variants of C-90 and Alcotan M100 (even though im still craving for that SAAB bofors M4 Carl Gustaf , but i guess instalaza was choosen for "economical" reason) , i really hope we buy a bulk thousand of this for our tonban and if lucky able to get license production permit for PT.Pindad

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Ga strong kalo tandan pisangnya ga keluar keluar kek RPG 7

 

[schuimpjes]

Ga strong kalo tandan pisangnya ga keluar keluar kek RPG 7

Pisang keluarnya itu yang bikin less accurate than AT-4 or alike (with barrel or whatever it called in Recoiless Rifle).

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1413842719693185024

 

[Madokafc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1413842719693185024

Seems they need light armored tactical vehicles

Hope they can acquire more ILTV, P2 commando or the likes

 

[schuimpjes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1413842719693185024

IS Jihadist be like: Looks like that Ansharu thagut of modern Ilyasiq Pancasila just follow our Holly path of up-armored pick up, ya akhi. The different, we mainly used that for Dugma (SVBIED). Keep la isbal, brothers.

 

[R4duga]

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IS Jihadist be like: Looks like that Ansharu thagut of modern Ilyasiq Pancasila just follow our Holly path of up-armored pick up, ya akhi. The different, we mainly used that for Dugma (SVBIED). Keep la isbal, brothers.

ah yes , "teralis" anti rpg slat armor , very modern indeed

 

[trishna_amrta]

I think SIG Sauer is the less risky offer. The Textron one is kind of weird

dang you most likely right there. This new cartridge and platform is so new and revolutionary, it's difficult for me to get enough info on them. And yet very exciting from small arm technology development standpoint.

Anyway, here are some baseline facts I've managed to gather from several Youtube channel who had first-hand looked and feel of the new platforms (courtesy & sponsored by each OEM vendors). I do however single out the General Dynamic offering due to it being bull pup

• They all use new generation 6.5mm x 51mm round (NOT the 6.8mm SPC as I mistakenly thought it was). But somehow radically different cartridge overall for each of the OEM offering.
• All the cartridge have around 80000 psi of pressure (most likely OEM proofing cartridge). This will put them at least in par with .308 Win, 6.5mm Creedmoor, and many others "Magnum" cartridges.
• The railing is not only function as attachment mounting, but also function for power & datalink connectivity (electronic connection). This enables all the accessories to receive power from a common source (battery pack in the weapon) but also to share data.
• What looks like as suppressor on them is a combination of both suppressor & muzzle break
  
• Their optic for all-purpose and intend is functioning as targeting / ballistic computer
• Ambidexterity capable functionality.

Here is what I thought of them, again I'm single out the General Dynamic offering due to it being bull pup ;

Sig Sauer :

• Conventional cartridge design, The only difference is they use stainless steel case bottom to accommodate the higher pressure
• Being conventionally design, not much of a change other than the newly added features
• Ammo manufacturing & supply chain will be using existing tooling & machinery. Although I'm guessing they will need a greater margin of tolerance that only the biggest manufacture could handle.

Textron :

• Use telescopic polymer cartridge which potentially lighter overall.
• Overly complicated jam recovery.
• More complicated for field strip & re assembly.

Another thing that I've notice is all of them are direct impingement. Although I typically despise direct impingement, the 80000 psi pressure make them worth to use them in actual combat environment. And besides, with such pressure I actually prefer direct impingement to piston driven.

Based from what I've seen so far, I strongly believe that Sig Sauer will bag this.

 

[Madokafc]

 

[JATOSINT]

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IS Jihadist be like: Looks like that Ansharu thagut of modern Ilyasiq Pancasila just follow our Holly path of up-armored pick up, ya akhi. The different, we mainly used that for Dugma (SVBIED). Keep la isbal, brothers.

Sure, good luck using a heavily armored/modified 4x4 in Papua mountainous area

 

[NEKO]

There is not much recoil, or was it because of the weird hugging position? (Kinda make it more stable for aiming because they can rest their left hand on their partner's back tho, but still weird)
Well not as weird as this.

Bazooka style bikin jadi lebih compact dibanding RPG-7 style.