schuimpjes
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I'm sure that Mali is not like a walk in the park.The vacational trip was fully paid by them afterall ....
I'm sure that Mali is not like a walk in the park.The vacational trip was fully paid by them afterall ....
We actually already sent troops there, but the number was/is small.Mali Apresiasi Peran Aktif Pasukan Perdamaian Indonesia
Indonesia yang merupakan salah satu kontributor terbesar pada operasi perdamaian di dunia, saat ini memiliki 16 anggota TNI yang sedang bertugas di Mali.m.medcom.id
Co-deployment (?) With Australia. We deploy 1 Battalion there. I don't think this one already happen.Indonesia-Australia akan Kirim Pemelihara Perdamaian ke Mali |Republika Online
Saat ini Indonesia menduduki posisi ke-8 dari 122 negara pengirim pasukan perdamaian.m.republika.co.id
As long as they got safe and reimbursed there is always happy endingWe actually already sent troops there, but the number was/is small.
Co-deployment (?) With Australia. We deploy 1 Battalion there. I don't think this one already happen.
Whatever it is, please change the camo, Desert DPM like camo that used for UNIFIL is so ~~~.
We are coming from a moslem majority country and ingrained in our basic culture courtesy to never walk with our nose pointed to the sky while mingling in . With the UN umbrella on our helmet . Yeah , compared to other " shining knight " countries . It's a walk in the park .I'm sure that Mali is not like a walk in the park.
To early to tell .... While the kinetic performance are promising . Until it profiliate much further among the rest of NATO'S nothing good will come to us if we are jumping in too early ....Just wonder, if the US Army prefer such solution and adopted it, this surely would be mass adopted at scale involved not only their internal units (Army and Marine corps) but their whole Allies too, meanwhile Indonesian Armed Forces as one who took NATO pattern as standard for their small arms and munition is should looking what they would do next? Follow the trend or stick with the old way?
Different tool for different job. The US Army need something with ballistic performance comparable to that of the 7.62mm NATO but still lightweight enough (duh...) thus not become a logistical burden.Just wonder, if the US Army prefer such solution and adopted it, this surely would be mass adopted at scale involved not only their internal units (Army and Marine corps) but their whole Allies too, meanwhile Indonesian Armed Forces as one who took NATO pattern as standard for their small arms and munition is should looking what they would do next? Follow the trend or stick with the old way?
yea, peace ops in Mali more like combat mission than regular peacekeeping ops,I'm sure that Mali is not like a walk in the park.
for now 5.56 still good for use.Just wonder, if the US Army prefer such solution and adopted it, this surely would be mass adopted at scale involved not only their internal units (Army and Marine corps) but their whole Allies too, meanwhile Indonesian Armed Forces as one who took NATO pattern as standard for their small arms and munition is should looking what they would do next? Follow the trend or stick with the old way?
yea, peace ops in Mali more like combat mission than regular peacekeeping ops,
that's why most nation involved in peace ops there are well train and equip nation like French, UK, Germany, Sweden, Canada, Dutch, Denmark, China and more.
it's like in the early day of Afghanistan (2001-2006) when it still an peacekeeping ops under UN/NATO ISAF before it become full combat ops in 2007 only this time the people in Mali are more support on the peacekeeper than the insurgent.
I might be wrong, but I don't think we're in a position where switching to a whole new caliber can be done in most efficient and economical way - at least not in the next 20 years.Just wonder, if the US Army prefer such solution and adopted it, this surely would be mass adopted at scale involved not only their internal units (Army and Marine corps) but their whole Allies too, meanwhile Indonesian Armed Forces as one who took NATO pattern as standard for their small arms and munition is should looking what they would do next? Follow the trend or stick with the old way?
if 6.8 chosen, that would not guarantee to be NATO standard (at least not until 2030-ish), because most NATO country who 5.56 user are just or in progress of replacing their existing weapon with a new one. even in the US, the marine just started issue M27 IAR as replacement for their SAW, M16 and M4 rifle, so there's going to be some objection in adapting new round.
Since the 6.8 SPC is billed to have similar ballistic performance as that of 7.62 NATO, I'm thinking the most viable way is to replace whatever it is currently using 7.62 NATO chambering into 6.8 SPC. And as time goes, gradually replacing the 5.56mm.I might be wrong, but I don't think we're in a position where switching to a whole new caliber can be done in most efficient and economical way - at least not in the next 20 years.
Universal ammo was an economic way to go . But jack of all trades was a master of none .... If we only goes for a peer to a peer enggagement then 6.8 was the future but somehow unless for a specific region ( papua ) 5.56 still has it's merit too ..Since the 6.8 SPC is billed to have similar ballistic performance as that of 7.62 NATO, I'm thinking the most viable way is to replace whatever it is currently using 7.62 NATO chambering into 6.8 SPC. And as time goes, gradually replacing the 5.56mm.