Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[trishna_amrta]

huh that's new to my ears , i never heard we already choose weapons package for iver yet .

i remember in pakistan defence someone post a paper with iver specification include the MK41 VLS but i think it's not fixed yet .

Well what else can you fit inside Mk41 cell? Can't fit Aster or CAMM in there

 

[Madokafc]

Well what else can you fit inside Mk41 cell? Can't fit Aster or CAMM in there

Cause they are trying to negotiate them, we will get at least ten or more Warships with US Made Missiles and system if the deal can goes on.

The second plan surely using European solution, there is less complicated export license from their

 

[Umigami]

I think it was told earlier? I remember some pictures posted by indonesian members showing sm2

Are you sure about that?

 

[Umigami]

How about their AShM?
Will Iver use Exocet like any other AL ship?
30ffm will stay with its original Missile (type 12) or gonna be Exocet again?

 

[l3onhard]

Ow I thought that the specs for iver tni al is already finalized(and no us made air defence in it) .http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2020/06/spek-persenjataan-iver-class-selesai.html?m=1
But I don't know wether there will be any changes

 

[Madokafc]

Ow I thought that the specs for iver tni al is already finalized(and no us made air defence in it) .http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2020/06/spek-persenjataan-iver-class-selesai.html?m=1
But I don't know wether there will be any changes

No lah that's still guessing at best, the one i got info is most likely they will put at least 32 VLS and between 8 to 16 AShM. Sensor using Hensholdt and Therma solution.

 

[Anmdt]

How about their AShM?
Will Iver use Exocet like any other AL ship?
30ffm will stay with its original Missile (type 12) or gonna be Exocet again?

Replacement of ASh missiles, CIWS, decoys/counter measures, main gun, RWS can be done easily.
Physical integration of these is relatively simple, only requires specific updates in CMS.

Whatever installed on Indonesian IH frigate should be capable of benefiting APAR guidance/illumination of multiple targets for point defense.

 

[Madokafc]

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It just from Jane's , but think there is much consideration on how to proceed with Scorpene class, as they are literally different beast from U209 family

 

[l3onhard]

No lah that's still guessing at best, the one i got info is most likely they will put at least 32 VLS and between 8 to 16 AShM. Sensor using Hensholdt and Therma solution.

So 32 vls will be a combination of mica+aster or something else?(Such as US essm)

 

[Umigami]

So 32 vls will be a combination of mica+aster or something else?(Such as US essm)

Nope, just pick one US or Europe.

 

[Madokafc]

So 32 vls will be a combination of mica+aster or something else?(Such as US essm)

They are still mulling about CAMM, MICA or ESSM.

 

[R4duga]

in my personnal opinion , 48 Universal VLS (MK41 or Sylver) for iver is the most optimum number for iver to be a dedicated AAW frigate, and even it's going to be plus if it had capability to carry quadpacked missile .
32 Of that VLS can be filled with Long range SAM
16 of it can be fitted with quadpacked missile either CAMM or ESSM .
making iver combination with 32x LRSAM and 64x Short to medium range SAM .

but that just my dream setup ......

 

[Chestnut]

Well what else can you fit inside Mk41 cell? Can't fit Aster or CAMM in there

You can fit CAMM on the mk41

 

[l3onhard]

in my personnal opinion , 48 Universal VLS (MK41 or Sylver) for iver is the most optimum number for iver to be a dedicated AAW frigate, and even it's going to be plus if it had capability to carry quadpacked missile .
32 Of that VLS can be filled with Long range SAM
16 of it can be fitted with quadpacked missile either CAMM or ESSM .
making iver combination with 32x LRSAM and 48x Short to medium range SAM .

but that just my dream setup ......

Impossible..

 

[Chestnut]

Sensors are mainly Japanese,
Major US systems are CIWS (SeaRAM) and Mk41VLS, the prior is easy to replace with any kind of CIWS, the latter will definitely be leased for Indonesia, why not? Along With ESSM or SM-2.
SeaRAM (or RAM) is luxury for Indonesia, too expensive per-missile,per-system for the range it provides. It won't be a big deal to add Millennium gun there.
Even propulsion is British RR.
That guy (Alman) is so pro-European he is blinded by the facts.

FREMM has got US- GE LM2500 gas turbine.

Not to mention it isn't difficult to integrate sensors/weapons packages onto a hull.

 

[Gary]

any idea what ship we'll send??

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1336975881345130497

 

[Parry Brima]

You can fit CAMM on the mk41

 

[Madokafc]

View attachment 8393

Type 26 using MK 41 vls

 

[Anmdt]

Type 26 using MK 41 vls

3 x 8 cell Mk41 + 12 VLS for 48 CAMM / or12 CAMM-ER

 

[trishna_amrta]

No lah that's still guessing at best, the one i got info is most likely they will put at least 32 VLS and between 8 to 16 AShM. Sensor using Hensholdt and Therma solution.

In the most likely case it will be 4 Exocet block 3. Putting more than 8 AShM in a single hull is pointless. You can't sink a vessel of any size by punching a hole on it. At best AShM can only "mission kill" but not sinking. Sinking is the job for submarine with Heavyweight Torpedo