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7.62 mm minigun I doubt will penetrate, probably need 12.7 mm HMG rounds to penetrate it. Dunno if they have the same armor as current Badak (withstand 12.7 mm rounds).
Considering it is fast-moving and the shooter also moves, missile would be best weapon to destroy them.
I don't think the hull could withstand multiple visit from .30 or .50 cal round.
 

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Ini yang dulu ngebul item di priok ya?
instead of Mogami wouldn't it be better for a repeat order of more FREMM ??

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Future main fleet composition should be liek this:

AAW

2x AH140

ASW

6x FREMM ASW
2x Maestrale
2x SIGMA 10514
3x Fatahillah

GP

3x F2000
4x SIGMA 9113


if we're committed to the planned 16 new frigates, I suppose we could do a repeat order for GP or AAW version FREMM.
If we repeat order then which is better? AH140 or FREMM? Or both?

I personally prefer to have our own arleigh burke, a single design kept used for decades but with incremental improvement, thus why not pay for total ToT and IP rights like our LPD deal with sokor? We can choose AH140 / FREMM and keep building it for several decades ahead and keep improving it.

We can build as much as we want and we may also be able to export it.
If we can become JP or SK and able to develop our supporting indhan for warship then we can slowly modify the design and put Karya Anak Bangsa subsystem on it.
 

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Ini yang dulu ngebul item di priok ya?

If we repeat order then which is better? AH140 or FREMM? Or both?

I personally prefer to have our own arleigh burke, a single design kept used for decades but with incremental improvement, thus why not pay for total ToT and IP rights like our LPD deal with sokor? We can choose AH140 / FREMM and keep building it for several decades ahead and keep improving it.

We can build as much as we want and we may also be able to export it.
If we can become JP or SK and able to develop our supporting indhan for warship then we can slowly modify the design and put Karya Anak Bangsa subsystem on it.
Fremm is good as lead / flagship of a flotilla.
Ah140 is good as a gap filler multi-purpose. Fremm is too expensive and huge to be a gap filler (unless it serves under a blue water navy).
 

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I know that sometimes I complaint about the loud rock music used in the vid, and this kind of music however is idk okayish? Karya anak bangsa? I know that its a bit weird and unusual but it is still preferred than those loud rock music.
Fremm is good as lead / flagship of a flotilla.
Ah140 is good as a gap filler multi-purpose. Fremm is too expensive and huge to be a gap filler (unless it serves under a blue water navy).
Can't refute that.
 
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