Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Van Kravchenko]

He said this : "Misalnya untuk, misalnya ya, misalnya untuk alutsista TNI AD, alutsista TNI AL, sama."

He wants the Navy to operate a tank, which is basically this :

View attachment 36225

if I may ask, to defeat this so called Tank-Boat what enemy shall use ? an ATGM or AShM ?

 

[Var Dracon]

if I may ask, to defeat this so called Tank-Boat what enemy shall use ? an ATGM or AShM ?

ATGM such as Spike LR like those of Philippines MPAC or Hellfire mounted on various US vessels and helos. Anti ship missile would be overkill.

 

[Gary]

if I may ask, to defeat this so called Tank-Boat what enemy shall use ? an ATGM or AShM ?

Choppers with a pair of minigun will do

 

[Maverick]

if I may ask, to defeat this so called Tank-Boat what enemy shall use ? an ATGM or AShM ?

RHIB with 50 cal or Minigun on it

 

[Var Dracon]

Choppers with a pair of minigun will do

RHIB with 50 cal or Minigun on it

7.62 mm minigun I doubt will penetrate, probably need 12.7 mm HMG rounds to penetrate it. Dunno if they have the same armor as current Badak (withstand 12.7 mm rounds).
Considering it is fast-moving and the shooter also moves, missile would be best weapon to destroy them.

 

[R4duga]

just old pic of our coast guard.

 

[Lordimperator]

just old pic of our coast guard. View attachment 36307 View attachment 36308

Did Damen file protest?

 

[R4duga]

Did Damen file protest?

i honestly don't know about that.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1463853592788492291

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1463853592788492291

Still waiting for Nagapasa class to do torpedo fire.

 

[Gary]

7.62 mm minigun I doubt will penetrate, probably need 12.7 mm HMG rounds to penetrate it. Dunno if they have the same armor as current Badak (withstand 12.7 mm rounds).
Considering it is fast-moving and the shooter also moves, missile would be best weapon to destroy them.

I don't think the hull could withstand multiple visit from .30 or .50 cal round.

 

[NEKO]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1463067495930028032

Ini yang dulu ngebul item di priok ya?

instead of Mogami wouldn't it be better for a repeat order of more FREMM ??

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Future main fleet composition should be liek this:

AAW

2x AH140

ASW

6x FREMM ASW
2x Maestrale
2x SIGMA 10514
3x Fatahillah

GP

3x F2000
4x SIGMA 9113


if we're committed to the planned 16 new frigates, I suppose we could do a repeat order for GP or AAW version FREMM.

If we repeat order then which is better? AH140 or FREMM? Or both?

I personally prefer to have our own arleigh burke, a single design kept used for decades but with incremental improvement, thus why not pay for total ToT and IP rights like our LPD deal with sokor? We can choose AH140 / FREMM and keep building it for several decades ahead and keep improving it.

We can build as much as we want and we may also be able to export it.
If we can become JP or SK and able to develop our supporting indhan for warship then we can slowly modify the design and put Karya Anak Bangsa subsystem on it.

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464091166668775426

 

[Anmdt]

Ini yang dulu ngebul item di priok ya?

If we repeat order then which is better? AH140 or FREMM? Or both?

I personally prefer to have our own arleigh burke, a single design kept used for decades but with incremental improvement, thus why not pay for total ToT and IP rights like our LPD deal with sokor? We can choose AH140 / FREMM and keep building it for several decades ahead and keep improving it.

We can build as much as we want and we may also be able to export it.
If we can become JP or SK and able to develop our supporting indhan for warship then we can slowly modify the design and put Karya Anak Bangsa subsystem on it.

Fremm is good as lead / flagship of a flotilla.
Ah140 is good as a gap filler multi-purpose. Fremm is too expensive and huge to be a gap filler (unless it serves under a blue water navy).

 

[NEKO]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464091166668775426

I know that sometimes I complaint about the loud rock music used in the vid, and this kind of music however is idk okayish? Karya anak bangsa? I know that its a bit weird and unusual but it is still preferred than those loud rock music.

Fremm is good as lead / flagship of a flotilla.
Ah140 is good as a gap filler multi-purpose. Fremm is too expensive and huge to be a gap filler (unless it serves under a blue water navy).

Can't refute that.

 

[Lordimperator]

Ah140 is good as a gap filler multi-purpose

Even Brit using it as complement of more advanced Type 26

 

[NEKO]

Even Brit using it as complement of more advanced Type 26

Its cheaper.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464417711413469189

 

[Van Kravchenko]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464417711413469189

did IDMarine-Corps also participate in Donbass conflict ?

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464899269555630085