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Its a clearly Abrams mockup
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i don't get the logic behind that updated news
ah yes, modern dredger machine indeed equipped with smoothbore cannon incase the dredger were attacked by sea dwellers, damn those atlanteans.
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Well, when you surfs up at Metaverse and Tweets the new sudden-all-know member will roar and tell that was type 15 Light tank
This just like when one of our KRI put a waste in Aussie Beach. The question is, how the hell Chino bring that mockup nearby?
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Hmmm, who is making an "Abrams" as shooting or adversaries target ?
Anyway it could be used as odong odong, or children plaything
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Or it just to simulate tank in general, not particularly Abrams.
That's a lot of tetanus jabs
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so Mogami is still on the table,
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Excerpts.
"The Defense Ministry and the working group team will study thoroughly the preliminary concept to produce a state defense strategic document as the outcome of synergy among defense stakeholders within the TNI, he stated.
Prabowo expressed optimism that the joint working group would continue to exist in future in order to maintain the already built synergy.
“The personnel may change, but our projection continues to run. We abandon the old thoughts that in 30 to 40 years’ time no war will happen in Indonesia,” he stated
The formulation of a strategic document is part of the efforts to improve a state defense blueprint in order to take precautionary measures against all sorts of threats and worst-case scenarios, he noted."
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"The Defense Ministry and the working group team will study thoroughly the preliminary concept to produce a state defense strategic document as the outcome of synergy among defense stakeholders within the TNI, he stated.
Prabowo expressed optimism that the joint working group would continue to exist in future in order to maintain the already built synergy.
“The personnel may change, but our projection continues to run. We abandon the old thoughts that in 30 to 40 years’ time no war will happen in Indonesia,” he stated
The formulation of a strategic document is part of the efforts to improve a state defense blueprint in order to take precautionary measures against all sorts of threats and worst-case scenarios, he noted."
Prabowo praises preliminary concept of defense strategic document
Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto has lauded the preliminary concept of state defense strategic document presented by the working group team in Jakarta on ...
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Looks like it but now from eight to only four units.
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Is it not 4 built in Japan and another 4 built in Indo?
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Well thats according to AH in his video and its now four units. Price is the issue. Anyway any news coming from him take it with a big bag of salt.
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Finally.
It's long overdue, but better late than never. We have been complacent for the last few decades while actually the dynamic of world's politics will always brings surprises.
As long as Mogami is still being considered, the option is stil there.
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Noting from notable sources (like wikipedia and others news media, including AH videos) said that our 6 FREMM + 2 Maestrale cost € 4,1 billions or around $ 4,6 billion and the Four 30FFM said cost about ¥300 billions ($ 2,7 billions)
Lets take it one by one
both 6 FREMM and 2 Maestrale Cost € 4,1 billion, its not fair if we divided the cost per ship equally because we have 2 used ship, so if we assume the cost of 2 maestrale is roughly €150 mln each, means €300 millions both, we will have € 3,8 Billions for the 6 FREMM, means € 633 millions ($ 715 millions) each, and thats reasonable price for Italian FREMM
but for 30FFM said it cost for ¥300 billion ($ 2,7 billion), divided to 4 equals to $ 675 million each
well according to this news
Japan’s New Mogami-Class Frigates Show What The U.S. Navy’s Littoral Combat Ships Could Have Been
The frigate's design attributes-speed, small crew size, support for unmanned vehicles, and anti-submarine and counter-mine capability-also guided development of U.S. littoral combat ships. The design Japan settled on is somewhat larger, a bit less expensive, and more versatile and heavily armed.
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"The Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force (JMSDF) eventually plans to procure a total of 22 of the stealth escort frigates (also designated “destroyer escorts”) built at a pace of two per year, at an estimated cost of 50 billion yen ($467 million) each"
sure we see the price jumps from the domestic price to the export price,
im not sure why
also im not sure if that all the costs is included with the armament it needs or not.
