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Noting from notable sources (like wikipedia and others news media, including AH videos) said that our 6 FREMM + 2 Maestrale cost € 4,1 billions or around $ 4,6 billion and the Four 30FFM said cost about ¥300 billions ($ 2,7 billions)

Lets take it one by one

both 6 FREMM and 2 Maestrale Cost € 4,1 billion, its not fair if we divided the cost per ship equally because we have 2 used ship, so if we assume the cost of 2 maestrale is roughly €150 mln each, means €300 millions both, we will have € 3,8 Billions for the 6 FREMM, means € 633 millions ($ 715 millions) each, and thats reasonable price for Italian FREMM

but for 30FFM said it cost for ¥300 billion ($ 2,7 billion), divided to 4 equals to $ 675 million each
well according to this news


"The Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force (JMSDF) eventually plans to procure a total of 22 of the stealth escort frigates (also designated “destroyer escorts”) built at a pace of two per year, at an estimated cost of 50 billion yen ($467 million) each"

sure we see the price jumps from the domestic price to the export price,
im not sure why

also im not sure if that all the costs is included with the armament it needs or not.
Your calculation further reinforces my thought that anything that has been reported regarding Mogami for our navy so far are mostly still educated guesses at best.

We can assume anything as well, especially regarding to more than $100 million difference between the quoted and your calculated prices.

However, this is my guess: If the deal got through, we'll probably get four Mogamis built in Japan and an option for two more to be build in PT PAL.
 

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does PAL has the capacity and funding to build the babcock design and mogami in same time?
bigger question still, do MoD can afford to buy them all?
 

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does PAL has the capacity and funding to build the babcock design and mogami in same time?
bigger question still, do MoD can afford to buy them all?
Not in the same time, I believe. That's why I mentioned an option to build two Mogami at PT PAL - especially on later date after Babcock frigates.

Re: money: While this won't fully answer your question, but you know that Japan has also offered soft loan for their Mogami to us, right? At the very least they have offered us a very interesting proposal.

Anyway, don't quote me on this, but somehow I "feel" that most, if not all, of the technical and financial aspects of this offer have already been solved and agreed upon quite some time ago. It's the political aspect that's being considered now.

Of course that's just my own assumption.
 

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Well thats according to AH in his video and its now four units. Price is the issue. Anyway any news coming from him take it with a big bag of salt.
"Because we dont have money"

Anyway

Twit: 5th and 6th ffm being built at shipyard, MHI Nagasaki

Damn they are so fast, if we bag them the deal next year, we might get ffm earlier than our PAL Iver
 

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