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"In terms of specifications, he continued, the warship is equipped with the latest sensor, weapon and command (sewaco) system that has been determined by the Indonesian Ministry of Defense.

Apart from that, there are significant differences in the number of combat system equipment and weapons platform variants on the two Red and White Frigate ships.

"Because both the first ship and the second Red and White Frigate ship carry more weapons than the initial design offered," he said.
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Why only 1 ?
I don't know the logic behind this "hibah"
first Korsel want to give 3 unit, but lately they change it to be just one ROKS 733.

hibah coz we bought many weapons from there , so they wanna give it kindness with 3 unit pohang class, then change it just one only no 733

The Deputy Minister of Defense said that this ship grant is useful, because we need a lot of ships and funds are limited. This ship can be used as a patrol ship with a speed of 32 knots, 76 & 40 mm guns.

The KSAL also added that later this ship could be equipped with missiles & torpedoes if needed, and it would be a good idea to add a ship.
 
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"In terms of specifications, he continued, the warship is equipped with the latest sensor, weapon and command (sewaco) system that has been determined by the Indonesian Ministry of Defense.

Apart from that, there are significant differences in the number of combat system equipment and weapons platform variants on the two Red and White Frigate ships.

"Because both the first ship and the second Red and White Frigate ship carry more weapons than the initial design offered," he said.
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What does this mean for this ship to be multi-role, so it can carry out various missions, such as ASW/AAW missions?
 

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hibah coz we bought many weapons from there , so they wanna give it kindness with 3 unit pohang class, then change it just one only no 733

The Deputy Minister of Defense said that this ship grant is useful, because we need a lot of ships and funds are limited. This ship can be used as a patrol ship with a speed of 32 knots, 76 & 40 mm guns.

The KSAL also added that later this ship could be equipped with missiles & torpedoes if needed, and it would be a good idea to add a ship.
CODAG?
 

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2 conclusions from the PUS ALPHALHAN study

1. There are problems that cause the decision to continue the batch 2 submarine procurement contract to be considered, namely:
a. damage to submarines resulting from batch 1 procurement that requires attention;
b. the reasonableness of the submarine procurement price cannot be assessed;
c. there is a risk of uncertainty in PTPAL's job scope;
d. the contract does not contain specifications for the diving depth of the submarine and does not contain the right for the buyer to reject the diving vessel if it cannot reach the agreed depth; And

2. The decision to continue the contract for the procurement of batch 2 submarines may need to be reviewed until appropriate risk mitigation steps can be taken to overcome existing problems so that the procurement of batch 2 submarines can produce submarines at a reasonable price and can function and be well maintained.
cant fathom why did they choose CBG without warranty like that
 
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The Italian Navy’s Carrier Strike Group based on the Cavour (CVH 550) STOVL aircraft carrier escorted by the Alpino (F 594) Bergamini-class frigate is expected to visit Indonesia
Fincantieri race against Navantia and Naval Group wkwk
 

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Indonesia Cuts Steel For Second Red White Frigate​

Indonesian state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL Indonesia marked another significant milestone on June 5 with the first steel-cutting ceremony for the second Red White-class frigate at its shipyard in Surabaya City, East Java. This event signifies the commencement of the physical construction phase for the new vessel, which is based on Babcock's Arrowhead 140 design.


Fauzan Malufti 08 Jun 2024

The Red White frigates are part of Indonesia’s ongoing efforts to modernise its navy (TNI AL) as well as enhance the capabilities of its domestic defence industry so that it could build larger and more complex surface combatants. The steel-cutting ceremony was attended by key stakeholders, particularly those from the Indonesian Ministry of Defence and TNI AL.

According to PT PAL, the Red White Frigates will see a substantial increase in the number of combat systems and weapon platforms compared to the original Arrowhead 140 design offered to TNI AL. In addition, the shipbuilder stated that it would be responsible also for conducting harbour and sea acceptance tests of the frigate.

Red White Frigate
First steel cutting ceremony of Indonesia’s second Red White Frigate. Indonesian MoD picture.

Naval News understands that the selection of weapon systems and other critical components, driven by technical and non-technical considerations from the Ministry of Defence and/or Navy, has necessitated adjustments to the frigate’s design. The frigate is projected to use a considerable amount of Turkish-made systems.

In a press release published by TNI AL, it is stated that as of May, 2024, the construction progress of this second frigate (construction number W000305) has reached 33.5%, surpassing the original plan of 24.8%.

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First steel cutting ceremony of Indonesia’s second Red White Frigate. PT PAL picture.

Both the Ministry of Defence and Navy stated that the Red White frigate will have a length of 140 metres, a width of 19.75 meters, and a full load displacement of 6,626 tonnes. The maximum speed is 28 knots, while the maximum operating range is 9,000 nautical miles. Furthermore, the frigate is designed to be crewed by 143 people and has an operational endurance of 21 days.

The first Red White-class frigate has already seen significant progress since its initial construction phase. The first steel cutting for this vessel took place in November 2022, followed by the keel-laying ceremony in August 2023.

Naval News understands that based on the construction timeline presented to the Ministry of Defence earlier this year, the first frigate is slated for delivery in 2026 and the second in 2027.


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Naval News understands that based on the construction timeline presented to the Ministry of Defence earlier this year, the first frigate is slated for delivery in 2026 and the second in 2027.
About three years of construction for each ship, pretty reasonable time.
Semoga lancar jaya.

In a press release published by TNI AL, it is stated that as of May, 2024, the construction progress of this second frigate (construction number W000305) has reached 33.5%, surpassing the original plan of 24.8%.
Nice.
 
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About three years of construction for each ship, pretty reasonable time.
Semoga lancar jaya.


Nice.
Cmiiw. I think there is a typo from Naval News. It should have been the first FMP ship progress. They just cut steel for the second FMP.

And i think the 2026 and 2027 are not the delivery time but instead the launching schedule of both ships.There is a screenshot of FMP no.2 presentation which show the delivery of the ship would be in 2030.
 
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Cmiiw. I think there is a typo from Naval News. It should have been the first FMP ship progress. They just cut steel for the second FMP.
Yep, could be.
But it is still noice.
 

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The schedule of FMP 2 Frigate IN PAL
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And i think the 2026 and 2027 are not the delivery time but instead the launching schedule of both ships.There is a screenshot of FMP no.2 presentation which show the delivery of the ship would be in 2030.
Construction <3 year.
Fitting-out? 1 year.
Install sewaco 6 months.
Testing and trial <2 years.
Like that right?
 

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