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[Lordimperator]

But they have long knowledge to in building midget since long time

Yep, those Italians at wwii are famous being human torpedoes/ minisub

 

[Barjo_2]

Yep, those Italians at wwii are famous being human torpedoes/ minisub

Yep. MARE NOSTRUM!!!!!!! #ups...

 

[Umigami]

Marine corps should looking for China Amphibious light Tank VN16

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Better make this one reality please....

 

[Umigami]

Yep, those Italians at wwii are famous being human torpedoes/ minisub

Yep. MARE NOSTRUM!!!!!!! #ups...

I recommend his channel.

 

[GraveDigger388]

Better make this one reality please....
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YES!! PLEASE...!!

 

[NEKO]

Better make this one reality please....
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New turret is bigger and heavier, it may affect buoyancy and centre of gravity.

 

[Parry Brima]

If they offer conventional AND midget combo, it's okay.

You can't really call 850 tons submarine as midget submarine. It's probably only about 10m shorter than our Nagapasa, with 6 533mm torpedo tubes vs 8 tubes of CBG.

If we said yes to this 850 tons sub offer, probably because we need numbers more. Two 850 tons subs are probably better than just one 1400 tons sub. At least we can cover more area with two than just one.

 

[Lordimperator]

You can't really call 850 tons submarine as midget submarine. It's probably only about 10m shorter than our Nagapasa, with 6 533mm torpedo tubes vs 8 tubes of CBG.

Covertshores already written about Italian <1000 sub,it is based from the rumour on qatari midget sub order, but its not from fincantieri,
Here is the link :

H I Sutton - Covert Shores

www.hisutton.com

 

[Parry Brima]

Covertshores already written about Italian <1000 sub,it is based from the rumour on qatari midget sub order, but its not from fincantieri,
Here is the link :

H I Sutton - Covert Shores

www.hisutton.com

Qatari midget sub is not 850 tons and is not produced by Drass. The same guy reporting it to be produced by GSE Trieste (M23 S.R.L) and CABI Cattaneo.

The Qatari sub length is less than 30m so the Qatari sub is not 850 tons sub. Totally different than your link (Drass DG-900) which is 50m and 790-900 tons sub.

Italy's Secretive Submarine Deal With Qatar: New Intelligence - Naval News

Government hearings are sometimes a source of information on sensitive defense deals. Even ones of some magnitude, like the export of submarines. A slide shown to the Italian Parliament's hearing on Defense and Technology Research may give a fresh clue to a secret submarine project.

www.navalnews.com

H I Sutton - Covert Shores

www.hisutton.com

 

[NEKO]

Rapid beach assault using boats, we can learn a thing or two. Me after watching this video: TNI camo is not that bad, maybe not the best but definitely not the worst.
Boat: faster than amphibious vehicle but lack fire support.
Amphibious vehicle: able to support the infantry deep inland, but move slow on the water.
Tank boat: fast + fire support.

 

[Madokafc]

Kopaska

Very fit with badass image, but i am prefer big guys Arrowhead 140 and FREMM

 

[Stuka Dive]

I recommend his channel.

And I love the official Italian frogmen watch on that time...Luminor Marina Panerai

 

[NEKO]

Kopaska

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Very fit with badass image, but i am prefer big guys Arrowhead 140 and FREMM

You like it thicc?

 

[Anmdt]

I don't like this Fincantieri's submarine offer. They don't have proven submarine design yet.

What makes a design proven?

In my opinion is it passing all the tests and requirements set by the operator.

I never take some lobbied operators who never complain about anything or without a proper acquisition bureue as proof.

And Italians are known to be well in the midget - small submarine designs. I would personally divide subs in 3 categories based on echole and design-construction complexity and features; midget (10-100), mini (100-1000) ,medium(1000-3000). They are known to be good at midget and mini.

 

[Madokafc]

What makes a design proven?

In my opinion is it passing all the tests and requirements set by the operator.

I never take some lobbied operators who never complain about anything or without a proper acquisition bureue as proof.

And Italians are known to be well in the midget - small submarine designs. I would personally divide subs in 3 categories based on echole and design-construction complexity and features; midget (10-100), mini (100-1000) ,medium(1000-3000). They are known to be good at midget and mini.

And the discussion is actually based on the comment of some well known canteen guard

I would take some of his opinion with a tonnes of salt

Especially for the bitter ones

 

[Madokafc]

Indonesian Navy starting sister academy with Royal Australian Navy Naval College

TNI ANGKATAN LAUT

www.tnial.mil.id

 

[Madokafc]

Indonesian Navy held focus Group discussion over South China Sea Conflict

TNI ANGKATAN LAUT

www.tnial.mil.id

 

[Madokafc]

Pembaretan Arsenal TNI AL

 

[Madokafc]

 

[NEKO]

Pembaretan Arsenal TNI AL

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Is this some legit old canon?

And the discussion is actually based on the comment of some well known canteen guard

I would take some of his opinion with a tonnes of salt

Especially for the bitter ones

IMO we won't be abandoning plan to get new submarine in favour of midget submarine.