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Rotating radar for AAW .... wkwk
@AlphaMike for the given price tag, if it is final and all included, the fixed faced AESA is pretty hard to get. Also, any kind of involvement with AESA requires the navy to make a decision on whether they are settling C + L or X + S band combo (might also get S+L, but earlier options are more modern). Then building the rest of fleet according to this (thus the missiles).

in my opinion the alternative plans are:
Will be supplied by Babcock; weapons and to be supplied via packages, starting with bare configuration and then followed by electronics and weapons packages.

Or, by Indonesian side (PT.PAL); via direct procurements and separately from Babcock, and installed on the frigate.
 

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Is it hard to get? With $720 mil, 2 hulls, ffbnw only with naval gun
Nowadays that is a price for a hull with rotating AESA + secondary radar depending on the primary radar, with VLS (16), gun, and secondary armament.

If you say any weapon except the naval gun will be supplied separately then maybe only a 4 face fixed radar may fit in that budget.
 

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Nowadays that is a price for a hull with rotating AESA + secondary radar depending on the primary radar, with VLS (16), gun, and secondary armament.

If you say any weapon except the naval gun will be supplied separately then maybe only a 4 face fixed radar may fit in that budget.

The plan is that the construction of the Frigate Ship will be carried out within 69 months. The frigates will also be equipped with missiles as a form of air defense system, the specifications of which are Vertical Launcher MRSAM 3×8 cells, Vertical launcher LRSAM 4×8 cells, and Vertical Launcher Long Range SSM 2×8 cells which will be installed with the Fit For But Not With (FFBNW) system.

they are using FFBNW, hopefully it would be enough without VLS.
 

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Or, by Indonesian side (PT.PAL); via direct procurements and separately from Babcock, and installed on the frigate.
This. FFBNW.

Also, any kind of involvement with AESA requires the navy to make a decision on whether they are settling C + L or X + S band combo (might also get S+L, but earlier options are more modern). Then building the rest of fleet according to this (thus the missiles).
If SM400 is choosen and we are allowed by the US then we can choose ESSM and SM series for the missiles.

And with the TRS-4D rotator for the secondary radar, the ship will have C + S band radar.
 

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If only we have money fir AEGIS
Do you want Aerleigh Burke KW instead?
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Or
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Here's my take

Medium SAM = VL MICA
LR SAM = Aster 30
SSM = BrahMos

No we definitely not having standard series missile or ESSM
 

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Here's my take

Medium SAM = VL MICA
LR SAM = Aster 30
SSM = BrahMos

No we definitely not having standard series missile or ESSM
it would be good if we opt for strales as naval gun, which could be act as CIWS with DART ammunition
 

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it would be good if we opt for strales as naval gun, which could be act as CIWS with DART ammunition
Could the we afford to buy the ammo tho?

Me okay if they decide with standard 76mm Super rapid or 57mm Bofors MK3
 

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Here's my take

Medium SAM = VL MICA
LR SAM = Aster 30
SSM = BrahMos

No we definitely not having standard series missile or ESSM
And here is mine:

Medium SAM = ESSM
LR SAM = SM2
SSM = BrahMos (I hope for NSM though).

Never say never.
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About Fix radar for AH140, I think it still possible. I mean, even on that PAL's ridiculous pamphlet it use fix radar.
 

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Prepare your heart for bantingan when the full spec come out and it's not fixed radar lol
This. FFBNW.


If SM400 is choosen and we are allowed by the US then we can choose ESSM and SM series for the missiles.

And with the TRS-4D rotator for the secondary radar, the ship will have C + S band radar.
for US Sensors, yes it is good
but weapons, i prefer the European
Here's my take

Medium SAM = VL MICA
LR SAM = Aster 30
SSM = BrahMos

No we definitely not having standard series missile or ESSM
Just Brahmos?? no short range SSM like those Exocet?
And here is mine:

Medium SAM = ESSM
LR SAM = SM2
SSM = BrahMos (I hope for NSM though).

Never say never.
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my imagination:
Medium SAM = Barak
LR SAM = Barak ER
SSM = BrahMos
ok lets compromise,

Medium SAM = HQ-16
LR SAM = HHQ-9
SSM = YJ-12
 

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