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so current project will be funded with next/future planned project budget allocation ???

what gonna happened if the budget allocation for future project not approved ?
Well you got Maharajalela 2.0 because one of the Boustead case is same as this one "Dibayar bikin ini, malah buat bayar itu"
 

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If this rumor is true, whose money was used to run AH140 project? Philippine LPD? Have they paid the down payment? Hope Max Defense doesn't read this :ROFLMAO:
 

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^^^ So i'm guessing there will be another First Steel Cutting Ceremony but this time with all the top officials from MoD, Navy and Babcock including news media attending the ceremony.
Or maybe, there are many guys in FB and Twitter said the "true" steel cutting ceremony was last month without much people know and the recent ceremony is just for formalitas and if we think about it, the ceremony is quite bizzare with no press release, no official statement, no publication whatsoever and just for formiler, heck even wakasal attending another steel cuttting ceremony on the same day with press release
 

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And could they even choose a better day?
Why did it side by side with president's son marriage ceremony?
It was just like them were trying to put smoke screen for it.
 

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Also PAL need to pay penalty for failing to deliver 2 ship ordered by foreign company.

Economically challenged nih mereka.
And could they even choose a better day?
Why did it side by side with president's son marriage ceremony?
It was just like them were trying to put smoke screen for it.
Maybe they don't want any attention, after all their previous design of the AH140 is not well received.
 

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Do Us Formiler community has such power now that a SOE need to held formalitas ceremony just to please us ? 🤣
Or maybe, there are many guys in FB and Twitter said the "true" steel cutting ceremony was last month without much people know and the recent ceremony is just for formalitas and if we think about it, the ceremony is quite bizzare with no press release, no official statement, no publication whatsoever and just for formiler, heck even wakasal attending another steel cuttting ceremony on the same day with press release
 

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Or maybe, there are many guys in FB and Twitter said the "true" steel cutting ceremony was last month without much people know and the recent ceremony is just for formalitas and if we think about it, the ceremony is quite bizzare with no press release, no official statement, no publication whatsoever and just for formiler, heck even wakasal attending another steel cuttting ceremony on the same day with press release
It is usually vice-versa, the ceremonial steel cutting usually held in first place in casual occasion and again usually after the letter of trust is issued from bank, and real steel cutting commences later as the steels are ordered.
 

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They want to cut off from the Dutch influence as much as possible
One of them is S band multi-functional volume search radar while another, depending on configuration is L band long range sector search radar. The latter can be used for ABM while the prior is not. So this is not the reason but rather the mission profile, cost management etc.

NS200 optionally comes with FMCW surface search radar.

Strangely, TRS-4D is a C band radar that technically shares higher frequency range of S band and lower frequency range of X band and fulfills duty of NS200 partially.
 

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Btw if i remembered correctly there was a ceremony that PT PAL planned with all the VVIP & VIP chairs and podium being prepared but the event didn't goes as planned that day and it was posponed to another date. I think it was at the submarine facility. I forgot what occasion it was. But definitely about PT PAL submarine.
 

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For budget sake they sacrificed the tracking BM capability?
It makes sense if they label this platform as "multi-purpose". It does not require BM tracking or early-warning capability since neither it will carry ABM missiles.
 

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Also PAL need to pay penalty for failing to deliver 2 ship ordered by foreign company.

Economically challenged nih mereka.

Maybe they don't want any attention, after all their previous design of the AH140 is not well received.

That's already old issue and you can see the government would always bailed them out of necessity

The tribunal already set in 2014, at the time PT PAL is working on Sigma class projects, kcr projects, hospital ship projects, Submarine projects and surely our government always have ways to put more fund injection to help them out. That's SOE privillege , like it or not that's how they are working.
 

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It makes sense if they label this platform as "multi-purpose". It does not require BM tracking or early-warning capability since neither it will carry ABM missiles.
Well sure ALRI would not acquire any ABM sm series soon. For naval ABM what are the options from the NATO standard? sm3, 6; Aster 30 blockNT,2...
 
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It seems that the navy is very satisfied with the yakhont they want something similar for the red-white frigate.
 

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