Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Captain Wales]

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Who is this guy? Has been resting in there for 4 years and looks like the RAS station is installed too.
Location is banten/cilegon i even didn't know if there were a shipyard for new building in there. I assumed they were for maintenance.
Looks like in 2017 there were hangars (steelworks probably) and now in 2020 they are dismantled and taken away, they have literally abandoned the ship? That looks new.
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can this ship be move and finished at another shipyard, maybe finished at PT DRU or something

 

[Anmdt]

can this ship be move and finished at another shipyard, maybe finished at PT DRU or something

Indonesian members would tell it better.

 

[Mandala]

Excerpt.

Updated March 31, 2021 04:53 p.m. ET

Indonesia To Buy Japanese Stealth Frigates, Cooperate On Defense​

Artie Villasanta

Indonesia will buy as many as eight Mogami-class stealth frigates from Japan.


Japan plans to build 22 of the frigates, four of which will be bought by Indonesia. The agreement gives Indonesia the right to build four more Mogami-class frigates at Indonesian dockyards. They will be the most modern operated by the Indonesian Navy.

Full article: https://www.btimesonline.com/articl...e-indonesia-weapons-military-technologies.htm

 

[NEKO]

Lets just assume its still in "interested" phase. We can only be sure when the a̶c̶t̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶t̶r̶a̶c̶t̶ ̶a̶l̶r̶e̶a̶d̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶s̶i̶g̶n̶e̶d̶ the ship already delivered to TNI AL.
Remember Su35? Remember Nagapasa batch 2?

 

[Parry Brima]

Excerpt.

Updated March 31, 2021 04:53 p.m. ET

Indonesia To Buy Japanese Stealth Frigates, Cooperate On Defense​

Artie Villasanta

Indonesia will buy as many as eight Mogami-class stealth frigates from Japan.


Japan plans to build 22 of the frigates, four of which will be bought by Indonesia. The agreement gives Indonesia the right to build four more Mogami-class frigates at Indonesian dockyards. They will be the most modern operated by the Indonesian Navy.

Full article: https://www.btimesonline.com/articl...e-indonesia-weapons-military-technologies.htm

We'll buy two, and then that's it. Just like our Sigma.

 

[Mandala]

Lets just assume its still in "interested" phase. We can only be sure when the a̶c̶t̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶t̶r̶a̶c̶t̶ ̶a̶l̶r̶e̶a̶d̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶s̶i̶g̶n̶e̶d̶ the ship already delivered to TNI AL.
Remember Su35? Remember Nagapasa batch 2?

Well we all know the Su-35 current status is due to CAATSA and for the 2nd batch Nagapasa Class there is no official statement the project is cancelled. Cmiiw.

Lets just hope that this Indonesia-Japan defense deal that has been negotiated for almost 5 years will be fruitful.

 

[Gary]

“There has been very little discussion where the money is coming from,” says Australian military analyst Bob Lowry, who has written books on the Indonesian armed forces. “I don’t think Jokowi (President Joko Widodo) will give him a lot more of the funding he needs.”

Indonesia, Japan on verge of record gunboat deal - Asia Times

JAKARTA - Indonesian Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto is considering the purchase of eight stealthy Mogami-class multi-mission frigates as part

asiatimes.com

 

[NEKO]

That news said Indonesia will buy Japanese frigate, this news said Indonesia is considering the purchase of Japanese frigate.
That news said Indonesia choose F15EX over Rafale, this news said Rafale is very likely and that other news mixed both.

Reporter confusion 100.
Reader confusion 999.

Lets all be patient and see how this will unfold.

 

[l3onhard]

That news said Indonesia will buy Japanese frigate, this news said Indonesia is considering the purchase of Japanese frigate.
That news said Indonesia choose F15EX over Rafale, this news said Rafale is very likely and that other news mixed both.

Reporter confusion 100.
Reader confusion 999.

Lets all be patient and see how this will unfold.

In the end, fremm wins the contract for building two ships

 

[Anmdt]

That news said Indonesia will buy Japanese frigate, this news said Indonesia is considering the purchase of Japanese frigate.
That news said Indonesia choose F15EX over Rafale, this news said Rafale is very likely and that other news mixed both.

Reporter confusion 100.
Reader confusion 999.

Lets all be patient and see how this will unfold.

procurement office's confusion: 1000

 

[FPXAllen]

Reporter confusion 100.
Reader confusion 999.

Just like any other day when it comes to Indonesia's weapon procurement programs

 

[NEKO]

Still its good for the news media because they will always have new materials to publish, also good for the readers they always get hyped and get their hopes up every time news came out before getting their hopes slammed to the ground again and shattered to dust. And repeat.

 

[Stuka Dive]

Indonesia, Japan on verge of record gunboat deal​

Jakarta poised to purchase eight Mogami-class frigates to bolster its naval defenses amid rising Chinese incursions

By JOHN MCBETH
APRIL 1, 2021

JAKARTA – Indonesian Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto is considering the purchase of eight stealthy Mogami-class multi-mission frigates as part of a plan to beef up the navy’s long-range patrol capabilities and strengthen the country’s strategic defense relationship with Japan.

If the purchase is completed, it would represent the biggest-ever arms deal between the two nations, significantly at a time the Biden administration seeks to build an alliance of like-minded nations to contain China’s maritime ambitions.

Prabowo and Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi were in Tokyo last week for the first two-plus-two ministers meeting since 2015 as Indonesia quietly tries to counterbalance China’s increasingly aggressive posture in the southern reaches of the South China Sea.

Referring only to the transfer of fisheries surveillance vessels, Prabowo and Japanese Foreign Minister Toshimitsu Motegi signed an agreement on the transfer of military equipment and technology, one of the prerequisites Jakarta insists on in most new defense deals.

Government sources say the provisional plan calls for Japan to deliver four of the 3,900-ton frigates, beginning in late 2023 or early 2024, and for the remaining four to be built at state-run PT PAL’s Surabaya shipyard.

Indonesia had previously considered an order for six Danish Iver Huitfeldt-class frigates under a transfer-of-technology deal initially worth $720 million, but the sources indicate that Prabowo’s geopolitical thinking lies behind the switch to Japan.

Read more: https://asiatimes.com/2021/04/indonesia-japan-on-verge-of-record-gunboat-deal/

"Indonesia had previously considered an order for six Danish Iver Huitfeldt-class frigates under a transfer-of-technology deal initially worth $720 million, but the sources indicate that Prabowo’s geopolitical thinking lies behind the switch to Japan."

...and all the Mogami class completely kick-out al the Ivers ? what a damn...
Thought both frigates would be very good learning curve for ToT of Frigates design & builds, weapons and sensors integration, and combat management systems as well

 

[R4duga]

"Indonesia had previously considered an order for six Danish Iver Huitfeldt-class frigates under a transfer-of-technology deal initially worth $720 million, but the sources indicate that Prabowo’s geopolitical thinking lies behind the switch to Japan."

...and all the Mogami class completely kick-out al the Ivers ? what a damn...
Thought both frigates would be very good learning curve for ToT of Frigates design & builds, weapons and sensors integration, and combat management systems as well

too soon to pick a summary , let's see the progress on upcoming month , the only thing that i believe even though as a "hearsay" is , the MEF 3 surface combatant plan are hampered by fiscal commitment .

 

[Umigami]

Just 2 iver?

 

[trishna_amrta]

Reader confusion 999.

No confusion here

 

[Nilgiri]

Indonesia, Japan on verge of record gunboat deal - Asia Times

JAKARTA - Indonesian Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto is considering the purchase of eight stealthy Mogami-class multi-mission frigates as part

asiatimes.com

Honestly "gunboat" gives me total different image to what I would call "Warship" (for laypeople that dont know differences between destroyer, frigate, corvette etc) tbh heh.

PT boat, now thats a gunboat.

Anyway let us see what Indonesia goes for in the end....

 

[Mandala]

Edited: I just know that Fallenpx (FPXAllen) is a writer at GBP Aerospace & Defense Singapore.

Global Business Press | GBP

gbp.com.sg

 

[NEKO]

You mean @FPXAllen

 

[Umigami]

Just 2 iver?

In a greenbook, we will just get 2 ongoing contract iver?
No more fregate?
(No type 31, FFM, damen 115, fremm)