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What is the possibility of a railgun being employed on the MMU.
Any advantages and disadvantages?

A more capable power generation must be implemented on the engine side.
Mach 6 is faster than a cannon I believe, how much faster?
Fire rate; how many shots a minute?
How durable and reliable will it be?
 

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What is the possibility of a railgun being employed on the MMU.
Any advantages and disadvantages?

A more capable power generation must be implemented on the engine side.
Mach 6 is faster than a cannon I believe, how much faster?
Fire rate; how many shots a minute?
How durable and reliable will it be?

I think laser weapons are better for jet fighters.
 

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What is the possibility of a railgun being employed on the MMU.
Any advantages and disadvantages?

A more capable power generation must be implemented on the engine side.
Mach 6 is faster than a cannon I believe, how much faster?
Fire rate; how many shots a minute?
How durable and reliable will it be?
An ECT autocannon, maybe. A railgun, no.

ECT has a high muzzle velocity, yet it is very similar to a normal gun. In fact I'm pretty sure standard barrels can be used in ECT guns. The difference is that is uses plasma to ignite the propellent. In addition to being able to fire high velocity rounds which contain a different propellent, they can also fire ordinary rounds. This makes them very practical. The only problem is that just like railguns they require an external power source.
 
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Sapan's muzzle energy: 1.3MJ = 1.300.000 J

Do you actually know how much more that is in comparison for example F-35's 20mm or A-10's 30mm?
A 7.62/51 NATO round has 3600 Joules, make the division.
You always have the option to gauge the gun down if not up. I didn't mention SAPAN in my question after all.
 

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A 7.62/51 NATO round has 3600 Joules, make the division.
You always have the option to gauge the gun down if not up. I didn't mention SAPAN in my question after all.

A 7.62/51 NATO round has 3600 Joules, make the division.
You always have the option to gauge the gun down if not up. I didn't mention SAPAN in my question after all.
Example muzzle energy levels of different types of firearmsFirearmCaliberMuzzle energyft-lbfjoulesair gun spring.1771520air gun mag spring.222230air gun PCP.2230+40+pistol.22LR117159pistol9 mm383519pistol.45 ACP416564rifle5.56 × 45 mm1,3251,796rifle7.62 × 39 mm1,5272,070rifle7.62 × 51 mm2,8023,799heavy.50 BMG11,09115,037heavy14.5 × 114 mm23,74432,000

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it needs at least <50% more speed and at best 2x more speed than its perfect


No need, more speed is damage to the gun. American have reached mach 10 and the gun litterally breaks. Mach 6 for a 10 kg projectile will go 100 Km. Enough if you ask me.
 

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No need, more speed is damage to the gun. American have reached mach 10 and the gun litterally breaks. Mach 6 for a 10 kg projectile will go 100 Km. Enough if you ask me.
10 kg? Currently, a few hundred grams of bullets are being tested. We do not have an infrastructure that can launch a 10 kg bullet at 6 Mach speed.
 

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10 kg? Currently, a few hundred grams of bullets are being tested. We do not have an infrastructure that can launch a 10 kg bullet at 6 Mach speed.
from my calculations, Tubitak used 600gram projectile... and im 100% sure based on these infos..
 

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10 kg? Currently, a few hundred grams of bullets are being tested. We do not have an infrastructure that can launch a 10 kg bullet at 6 Mach speed.

In the end we will have to use something like that, are we going to use unguided bullets?
 

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Of course, how do you want to guide such small projectiles which are moving with speeds of + Mach 6? And how should the guidencce kit survive the high speeds, muzzle energy, electricity etc.? The sparks coming out of the railgun are actually parts of the rail itself, the "barrel/rail life" is extremly short, therefore a lot of maintenance required.

ROKETSAN better wastes it's energy on hypersonic missiles.
 

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Of course, how do you want to guide such small projectiles which are moving with speeds of + Mach 6? And how should the guidencce kit survive the high speeds, muzzle energy, electricity etc.? The sparks coming out of the railgun are actually parts of the rail itself, the "barrel/rail life" is extremly short, therefore a lot of maintenance required.

ROKETSAN better wastes it's energy on hypersonic missiles.
I am not sure what guidance is needed at all, this is type fire and forget thing, targeting system is other matter, that is necessity.
 

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I am not sure what guidance is needed at all, this is type fire and forget thing, targeting system is other matter, that is necessity.
Guidence of railgun projectiles would just slow it down, the whole idea makes no sense at all. With computers etc. you can calculate trajectory of your projectile and hostile target.
 

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Guidence of railgun projectiles would just slow it down, the whole idea makes no sense at all. With computers etc. you can calculate trajectory of your projectile and hostile target.
That what me logic tell to, more important thing is can this kind ow weapon work in some kind of burst mode.
 

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