TR Industry, Science and Technology

[Cabatli_TR]

This is the semiconductor technology that Israel has developed until now!

 

[Zafer]

The fact that Apple M1 chip will power Apple's next gen computers show what these low power consumption ARM based RISC chips are capable of. This in turn justifies any investment that will be made on the Çakıl chip line. Apple's chip is 5nm and the Çakıl will be 65nm in a few years. There is a huge difference obviously but the road is open and once you have your hand in the field you move forward as time goes by.

Several generations down I believe Çakıl will be able to power mobile phones with acceptable performance and also the automobile AI for self driving cars. Personally I don't need the top of the line performance from my phone. I still use a 3G phone for my main use and resort to a smart phone on occasions.

As a side note Çakıl is initially being produced by a Taiwanese foundry and the specs can be higher than the Yital in-house production.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

The fact that Apple M1 chip will power Apple's next gen computers show what these low power consumption ARM based RISC chips are capable of. This in turn justifies any investment that will be made on the Çakıl chip line. Apple's chip is 5nm and the Çakıl will be 65nm in a few years. There is a huge difference obviously but the road is open and once you have your hand in the field you move forward as time goes by.

Several generations down I believe Çakıl will be able to power mobile phones with acceptable performance and also the automobile AI for self driving cars. Personally I don't need the top of the line performance from my phone. I still use a 3G phone for my main use and resort to a smart phone on occasions.

As a side note Çakıl is initially being produced by a Taiwanese foundry and the specs can be higher than the Yital in-house production.

The use of CMOS chips in acc to production processes and cost !

 

[Cabatli_TR]

The number of chip manufacturers in accordance to manufacturing processes. Competition at upper leagues are deadly and A few institutes can stay on elite league in this sector.

BTW, Chinese SMIC joined into elite’s league with 14nm tech but ~80 of the chip and microwave market is dominated by a single institute in upper league.Taiwanese TSMC. They have reached 3nm production process.

 

[Zafer]

With Tesla's new AI chip for their cars the processing power available for Tesla cars have increased by 15 times. Competition between Tesla and Nvidia is hot at this field where some Tesla competitor Chinese companes use Nvidia AI chips. We don't have a powerful chip and we don't have a car either, just yet.

 

[uzaysan]

I dont want to be that guy but do we have any project on nanometer CNC machines. Its as important as chip itself. Only three country can produce this machines and its USA, Japan and Netherlands. And they dont sell this machines to china. And Huawei cant produce chips in home country. They make it taiwan.

beside that, This is still hell of a development.

 

[Zafer]

I dont want to be that guy but do we have any project on nanometer CNC machines. Its as important as chip itself. Only three country can produce this machines and its USA, Japan and Netherlands. And they dont sell this machines to china. And Huawei cant produce chips in home country. They make it taiwan.

beside that, This is still hell of a development.

Isn't that called photolithography, I wonder if South Korea has their own.

 

[uzaysan]

Isn't that called photolithography, I wonder if South Korea has their own.

You may be right. I don't know the name. I read somewhere that Korea gets this machines from Japan and didn't developed their own yet.

 

[Zafer]

We will probably get second hand, third hand anyway.

 

[azaher77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1332261562703355904

The delivery date of AKINCI, KARAOK, AKYA and ANADOLU has been announced!

 

[adenl]

So Akinci confirmed for being bought but so far nothing on Aksungur?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

 

[Saithan]

I dont want to be that guy but do we have any project on nanometer CNC machines. Its as important as chip itself. Only three country can produce this machines and its USA, Japan and Netherlands. And they dont sell this machines to china. And Huawei cant produce chips in home country. They make it taiwan.

beside that, This is still hell of a development.

Like these https://cnc-nordic.dk/ ?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Wind tunnel infrastructure (ongoing)

• Tusaş subsonic wind tunnel
• Tübitak SAGE trisonic wind tunnel

Tusaş

 

[Zafer]

Like these https://cnc-nordic.dk/ ?

He is talking about chip making machines but erroneously calling them nanometer CNC's, so not actually this kind of machines. The process of making chips, particularly etching the chip pattern on the silicone is called lithography.

 

[Anmdt]

Wind tunnel infrastructure (ongoing)

• Tusaş subsonic wind tunnel
• Tübitak SAGE trisonic wind tunnel

Tusaş
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Adding new capabilities to the existing one,
Tusaş had also purchased a super computer system, since their demand has surpassed the supply or computation centers (which is shared with other customers and universities).

 

[uzaysan]

Like these https://cnc-nordic.dk/ ?

I dont know this company. But this is an example

ASML products & services | Supplying the semiconductor industry

Explore ASML products and services that optimize the chip-making process, including our advanced lithography machines and metrology tools.

www.asml.com

The process of making chips, particularly etching the chip pattern on the silicone is called lithography.

You are right. They called lithography

 

[Bogeyman]

"Terpene rosin phenolic resin", which is used in many fields including automotive, white goods, chemistry, plastic and composite materials, was produced as a sample with the studies carried out in Bursa Technical University (BTU). They plan to reduce $ 100 million of foreign dependency.

Reçinedeki 100 milyon dolarlık dışa bağımlığı azaltacak proje geliştirdiler

Bursa Teknik Üniversitesinde (BTÜ) yapılan çalışmalarla otomotiv, beyaz eşya, kimya, plastik ve kompozit malzeme olmak üzere birçok alanda kullanılan "terpen rosin fenolik reçine" numune olarak üretildi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[azaher77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1333048308575703046

Prime Minister @Denys_Shmyhal
He met with the administration of the defense industry complex. Military technical cooperation,

 

[ekemenirtu]

In following years, We will see some great progress on national chip field. All parameters indicate that Turkey will make a new investment worth almost billion $ to new facility called Yital AŞ. (not Yital Lab). Yital lab started transition of current manufacturing tech to 130 nm SiGe and CMOS chips. In addition to this facility, It is believed that New facility called Yital Aş (%51 Aselsan) will have a manufacturing capability of 90nanometer CMOS and BICMOS chips, later they are going to develop 65 nm technology. The national processor Çakil will be developed in paralel to these progresses on semi-conductors. Further variants of Çakil will have higher frequency output with multi-core structure. The first variants of Çakil will be most likely produced by Sirterra (Malaysia) and As far as I know they have 110nm production process.

It should be Silterra.

For national security, indigenization of chip fabrication and design is of paramount importance.

Even if the technology nodes are multiple generations behind the most modern nodes, for the sake of national security, such investments are essential.

Turkish domestic demand and export potential in allied and partner countries should be able to recoup any investments made.