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Turkish students score well in PISA ratings, there is an increase of 60 points in the 22 years from 2003 to 2025. Job well done kids.

https://www.sabah.com.tr/egitim/tur...kti-2-alanda-oecd-ortalamasini-gectik-7656656

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Turkish students score well in PISA ratings, there is an increase of 60 points in the 22 years from 2003 to 2025. Job well done kids.

https://www.sabah.com.tr/egitim/tur...kti-2-alanda-oecd-ortalamasini-gectik-7656656

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I've seen the kind of Uni entrance exams Turkish Lise students have to go through. Its hard - very hard. Sort of like someone decided to have a mini mini Gaokao.

The filter is just there and it's brutal. But the ones that make it into technical unis are really good imo.

Their English can still be pretty terrible though

The only caveat of these results is the 72% coverage as opposed to 93% of Germany
 

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I've seen the kind of Uni entrance exams Turkish Lise students have to go through. Its hard - very hard. Sort of like someone decided to have a mini mini Gaokao.

The filter is just there and it's brutal. But the ones that make it into technical unis are really good imo.

Their English can still be pretty terrible though

The only caveat of these results is the 72% coverage as opposed to 93% of Germany
How about other nations, do you have a coverage list?


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Gaokao is hated by many people in China, but most of people also agree that there is no better method at this time.
 

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And what about where we place in the list? Because all that is being shared is how high we climbed, if we are still in the bottom half, for example, that is nothing to be proud about.
Bro, intrinsically any percentage increase statistics like that is faulty in it’s core, and generally is used to show how well you have done to people where it is not really so.

A quick calculation is:

Say Turkiye’s current performance is 20 units. 20% increase is 4 units.
Say World average is 50 units and if they have 10% increase they will have 5 units.
So in reality you will never catch up with the average and higher.

Also:
If growth is from 10% to 15%, the percentage increase is (15 - 10) \div 10 = 50% in percentage increase statistics.

To show real success you need percentage points statistics.
If growth is from 10% to 15% the real increase in percentage points statistics is 5%.
 

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And what about where we place in the list? Because all that is being shared is how high we climbed, if we are still in the bottom half, for example, that is nothing to be proud about.

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Turkey has surpassed Germany in the PISA results by a margin of 3–5 points.
Meanwhile, according to the PISA results, Finland has moved 6 points ahead of us. The gap isn't exactly glaring. However, will the "know-it-alls" who see these results finally stop harping on about how Finland has supposedly lapped Türkiye in education?

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A "PISA shock" has hit those "super-genius" citizens who turn up their noses at state schools and send their children to private schools—paying as much as 500,000–600,000 TL a year. State schools outperformed private schools by 22 points in science. In mathematics, the competition was neck and neck. State schools led by 22 points in problem-solving skills. In reading literacy, the competition was neck and neck.


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2025 PISA results

Scores:
Reading:
Score: 472 (16-point increase compared to 2022)
Ranking: 18th (17-place rise compared to 2022).
One of the largest ranking gains in the entire table
Science:
Score: 494 (18-point increase compared to 2022)
Ranking: 16th (15-place rise compared to 2022)
Mathematics:
Score: 462 (8-point increase compared to 2022)


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Below are the findings that have left France lamenting. TIMSS 2023 is an international study that correlates the mathematics and science achievement of 4th-grade students with their families' socioeconomic status (High, Medium, Low).

This status—calculated based on education level, occupation, and home resources reported in parent questionnaires—demonstrates the extent to which a family's resources are reflected in a child's academic performance.
Then, the results obtained from the exam are analyzed.

Here is the outcome regarding Türkiye's ranking in Europe:
4th-grade students;
Mathematics:
Students from the high socioeconomic group rank 1st in Europe.
8th globally.
Our students from the low socioeconomic group rank 2nd in Europe.

Science:
Our students from the high socioeconomic group rank 1st in Europe.
4th globally.
The low socioeconomic group ranks 2nd in Europe.

In other words, Turkey holds the top spots—ranking first or second—in Europe across both mathematics and science, for students in both the highest and lowest socioeconomic groups.

Ranking so highly at both ends of the spectrum indicates that Turkish students demonstrate outstanding performance across Europe, regardless of socioeconomic status.

However, it must be added that the absolute score gap between the groups remains significant (approximately one hundred points in mathematics), clearly illustrating how socioeconomic inequality within the country translates into academic achievement outcomes.

TIMSS is conducted every four years. The next one is scheduled for 2027.

 

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