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Missiles and drones shot from İran territory will be intercepted by the USA UK and France in the air.

Attack should come from Lebanon soil, otherwise it means nothing.
 

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Missiles and drones shot from İran territory will be intercepted by the USA UK and France in the air.

Attack should come from Lebanon soil, otherwise it means nothing.
I hope you realize the potential magnitude of what you're suggesting and the subsequent repercussions that the civilians of Lebanon would be forced to endure if Hezbollah succeeded in a meaningful attack against Israel?

It would give the Israeli government all the "ammunition" they need to start an extension and protracted bombing campaign in Lebanon. That sounds like a lot of civilians that die unnecessarily.

I don't think a major attack by Hezbollah is a overly smart, unless the organization is willing to go "all in" attempting to eliminate Israel.
 

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I hope you realize the potential magnitude of what you're suggesting and the subsequent repercussions that the civilians of Lebanon would be forced to endure if Hezbollah succeeded in a meaningful attack against Israel?

It would give the Israeli government all the "ammunition" they need to start an extension and protracted bombing campaign in Lebanon. That sounds like a lot of civilians that die unnecessarily.

I don't think a major attack by Hezbollah is a overly smart, unless the organization is willing to go "all in" attempting to eliminate Israel.
Naah , if hezbo do follows .they would only follow on the second waves . They are not that dumb
 

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Jokes aside. I think while Iran will surely show a certain level of restraint, they will also push the limits this time and I expect second tier political and military officials to be targeted, military and Israeli government infrastructure, symbolic sites too. I think we may see some serious damage, but what I am worried about is not these strikes, but the possible Israeli response and the possibility of a following miscalculation which may result in our darkest scenarios coming to life.

The problem for Iran is there is no winning option for them.

If they make an attack that doesn’t inflict any meaningful damage to Israel (like the last time), their threats will not be taken seriously and people will doubt their ability to harm Israel.

If they make a successful attack that inflicts serious damage, Israel is guaranteed to responde with much more amplified damage on Iran, which will put Iran in an even worse situation, as it will be their turn to respond, after being hit much harder than before.

Israel will not take any serious hit without a strong response, as it is Israeli policy to inflict many times more damage to their enemies for any hit against them. Look what they’re doing to Gaza as punishment for the October 7 attack. The number of deaths in Gaza already far exceeds the Israeli deaths, and they are still not stopping.

Iran has to choose between a weak response that will harm their reputation and a serious response that will have devastating repercussions for them.
 
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Israel threatening Iran with nuclear weapons could start a nuclear arms race in the region. This could increase tensions even more. The British considered this as one of the causes of World War III.

Psh, laughable.

Israel doesn't need to nuke Iran to deal with Iran, this entire thing is silly. The guy's saber-rattling & attention-whoring as these types tend to do. The only way nukes are ever flying is if Israel's somehow overrun in some hail mary last-ditch play by all their regional enemies at once, and said regional enemies are far too incompetent to ever get close to pulling off something like that anyway.

Also, yeah, "regional nuclear arms race" is only happening should Iran ever get close to a bomb (they won't be allowed to, so it's moot). The countries in the area even capable of going down the nuclear road hate Iran more than they do Israel anyway, so...
 

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Missiles and drones shot from İran territory will be intercepted by the USA UK and France in the air.

Attack should come from Lebanon soil, otherwise it means nothing.
So yeah US led coalition somewhat intervened in Iraq and Syria purely for democratic and humanly reasons yeah. :)
 

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The problem for Iran is there is no winning option for them.

If they make an attack that doesn’t inflict any meaningful damage to Israel (like the last time), their threats will not be taken seriously and people will doubt their ability to harm Israel.

If they make a successful attack that inflicts serious damage, Israel is guaranteed to responde with much more amplified damage on Iran, which will put Iran in an even worse situation, as it will be their turn to respond, after being hit much harder than before.

Israel will not take any serious hit without a strong response, as it is Israeli policy to inflict many times more damage to their enemies for any hit against them. Look what they’re doing to Gaza as punishment for the October 7 attack. The number of deaths in Gaza already far exceeds the Israeli deaths, and they are still not stopping.

Iran has to choose between a weak response that will harm their reputation and a serious response that will have devastating repercussions for them.

Iran (which is a shia theocracy) is not going to die for Sunni Muslims.

Some misinforned & generally low IQ Muslims on this forum & elsewhere need to accept this reality. Iran is NOT gonna save you guys. "Don't dream dreams" as Lord Owen said the same to Bosniaks in 1992 with regard to possible Western intervention. Don't like the guy but at least he was being honest.

Btw Iran has a pro-Israeli normalization wing within their own establishment.

They have covert ties with Israel via Netenyahu's buddy Putin. And ties that stretch back to the 80s.
 

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Eventually Middle East will go nuclear this is almost inevitable...And When it happens, on state level some sort of balance of terror is possible … For Middle East there arent any oceans or continents separting enemies...even when you are not a part of nuclear conflict it is highly likly that you will be effected anyway



For me The scariest thing about Nuclear Middle East is the possibility of non state actors, militias and proxies Like Hizbullah to have nuclear materials and weapons …… or even worst terrorist organizations like PKK may even a chance


İn Short whan it happens in Middle East nuclear proliferation can go beyond state level
 
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Eventually Middle East will go nuclear this is almost inevitable...

How do you figure?

The balance has held pretty well so far, it's not like the tech is new. The only reason other middle-eastern states would pursue nuclear programs is if Iran somehow pulled it off (they won't/can't) before being stopped. That's not going to be allowed to happen, not by the U.S. & Europe, and sure as hell not Israel. Nobody else in the region really wants/needs nukes, you're only getting a Saudi or Turkish or Egyptian program fired up in response to Iran somehow getting one up and running successfully. Which, if they could do that, they'd have done that already. They can't, because every time they make a little too much progress they end up with a bunch of dead scientists who've had encounters with mysterious dudes on motorbikes with uzis, and a bunch of sabotaged sites/bases. This is nothing new.
 

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Tanks are burning in Israeli military bases in Jerusalem. I guess we can call this Iran's response to the port attack. It looks like they recruited agents from Israel and caused the fires in the region.

@TR_123456 @Ryder @Zafer @Afif @Sanchez
 

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Tanks are burning in Israeli military bases in Jerusalem. I guess we can call this Iran's response to the port attack. It looks like they recruited agents from Israel and caused the fires in the region.

@TR_123456 @Ryder @Zafer @Afif @Sanchez

"Israeli Channel 13 confirms that the occupation arrested 3 "suspects" as a result of the fires in occupied Jerusalem. The Israeli firefighting force reveals that the fires ate 10,000 dunams of the Jerusalem Mountains."
 

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Tanks are burning in Israeli military bases in Jerusalem. I guess we can call this Iran's response to the port attack. It looks like they recruited agents from Israel and caused the fires in the region.

@TR_123456 @Ryder @Zafer @Afif @Sanchez

That's not tanks burning, but bushes behind them. And from what I could see, this is not a base but a tank museum. There are plenty of Mk2 out there but there are some great examples of history in that museum, hope they're unscathed.
 

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Tanks are burning in Israeli military bases in Jerusalem. I guess we can call this Iran's response to the port attack. It looks like they recruited agents from Israel and caused the fires in the region.

@TR_123456 @Ryder @Zafer @Afif @Sanchez

That's not tanks burning, but bushes behind them. And from what I could see, this is not a base but a tank museum. There are plenty of Mk2 out there but there are some great examples of history in that museum, hope they're unscathed.
However, people seem to have quickly forgotten that the Russians used T-55s from World War II in the Ukraine war.

Also, if you pay attention to the video, the soldiers are holding infantry rifles.
Therefore, this is an active military unit. The presence of 3-5 monuments and organized touristic tours do not reduce the potential of those tanks to still kill Turkish soldiers in Syria.

If you want a slow and painful death for Russian baby killers, you should want the same for Israeli baby killers.
 

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However, people seem to have quickly forgotten that the Russians used T-55s from World War II in the Ukraine war.

Also, if you pay attention to the video, the soldiers are holding infantry rifles.
Therefore, this is an active military unit. The presence of 3-5 monuments and organized touristic tours do not reduce the potential of those tanks to still kill Turkish soldiers in Syria.

If you want a slow and painful death for Russian baby killers, you should want the same for Israeli baby killers.
Israelis don't use Mk2s in active fighting. These are two videos from two different places. Tanks are tanks, history is history. I don't want slow painful deaths for anyone, including the tanks. Least we expect from all users for any topic is to fact check before they post things.

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Israelis don't use Mk2s in active fighting. These are two videos from two different places. Tanks are tanks, history is history. I don't want slow painful deaths for anyone, including the tanks. Least we expect from all users for any topic is to fact check before they post things.

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"TV footage showed fires burning along the main Route 1 Jerusalem to Tel Aviv highway and people abandoning cars and running away from the flames as thick smoke billowed over the surrounding hilltops."
Latrun is a strategic hilltop in the Latrun salient in the Ayalon Valley. It overlooks the road between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, 25 kilometers west of Jerusalem and 14 kilometers southeast of Ramla.
The place where the fire broke out and the "museum" is located are in the same place. So yes, the museum is burning.

A different video about the fire that broke out in the "museum"

We can easily say that some of the tanks in this museum are probably from the 90s and 80s. Therefore, it is possible that the components of the relatively new tanks have survived to this day. In other words, it does not matter if the tank is not used in "active service". You can maintain it, give general training to the soldiers who will use it and send them to the front.


As for the soldiers dying. Oh my God, I will not discuss the nonsense of humanism with you here. The Israeli genocidal terrorists need to rot in hell. It is that simple.
 

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