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When a super power comes to fight with some tiny resistant groups like Hamas and Hezbollah with career strike groups it's very naive and silly , I did not get a suitable word too use .

Yes, that is totally ridiculous. The US is embarrassing itself by licking Israel’s boots.

Yes Zionists in USA and Europe especially evangelical Christians in USA , make them understand that it is their holy duty to safeguard Zionism and Israel.

The Evangelical Christians in the US are for normal Christians what ISIS fanatics are for normal Muslims. They are a nutty bunch, a deranged sect that has nothing to do with mainstream Christianity.

A two state theory could be a peaceful solution of this problem but Israel will not allow it , because they have a plan for greater Israel .

Totally agree with you here.

Note : Crusade was fight by the elite Christians of England , France , Germany , Austria etc .

Those countries are mostly the Protestant parts of Christianity, and now are dominated by Atheists. They were never true Christians. They just adopted Christian beliefs and thematics to their previous barbaric cults.
 

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@contricusc In the beginning of the conflict the Western Public opinions were mostly in favour of Israel, I wonder if it has started to shift?
 

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BREAKING: Al-Quds Hospital in Gaza Faces Imminent Bombardment - Urgent Evacuation Threat

- The Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PRCS) has reported receiving serious threats from the occupation authorities to evacuate Al-Quds Hospital in the Gaza Strip, as it faces the imminent risk of being bombarded.

- Today, there have been raids as close as 50 meters from the hospital's vicinity. - PRCS spokesman notes the extreme difficulty of evacuating Al-Quds Hospital due to the presence of dozens of injured people. Source: RRCS
 

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Can you notice who fabricated this conflict?
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“We are drawing US attention away from Ukraine,” one of the leaders of Hamas.

The Russians have benefited from what we have done, as we distract the US from Ukraine, and China has been amazed at our success - Khaled Machel.
 

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No water supply in Jabalia RC We are sad to announce that the municipality team in Jabalia RC who were diligently working to repair damaged water pipes & restore supply to the RC this morning have been killed after Israeli military targeted the municipality vehicle. All murdered
 

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No. Turkish ships in this graphic are part are part of UN mission UNIFIL for Lebanon and NATO SNMG-2. These task forces are not there to aid US CSGs. They are just NATO and UN affiliated task forces in the region. US’s possible actions in the region will not be under NATO as well.
 

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@contricusc In the beginning of the conflict the Western Public opinions were mostly in favour of Israel, I wonder if it has started to shift?

I don’t know about that. I know that the propaganda they put on TV is still pro-Israel (they still show only the families of the Israeli dead from the terror attack every day, as if that day was the only day when people died), but I assume that the more knowledgeable people are not pro-Israel.

There is also a very big chunk of the European population that is antisemitic, and those were never pro-Israel.

My belief is that those who took the Covid vaccine are pro-Israel, while those who didn’t take the vaccine are pro-Palestine mostly, because they are more resistant to propaganda.
 

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LGBT-disease, critical race theory, mass-imigration and political correctness are starting to kill the West.

Add drug consumption, the Welfare State, high salaries for state workers and high pensions compared to private sector pay, and you get high youth unemployment and a declining population.

Full militairy and economic support for failed states like Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan will do the rest.

Defending Ukraine is in Europe’s interest. Sending aid to Israel would make no sense and be extremely stupid. Hopefully, Tawian won’t need any help.
 

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Technically he's right, the West does looks like a garden...but what he fails to understand is that Baghdad used to be the garden while Paris used to be a giant sewer.
He is completely wrong.
Here the main subject is the Context pf what hhe meant by Garden and Jungle. By garden he didn't meant Beautiful marvelous Wonder. He is using subjective Morality to Claim Superiority than the rest of the world. It's basic white man's racism towards the rest of the world.
Time changes, empires rise and fall, and eventually the West will decline, so even if his statement is true, it's irrelevant. The "jungle" he looked down on, will one day rise to be the garden.
You are forgetting that MIDDLE AGE or Dark Age is only European Concept of their strruggle. Africa and Asia had already entered into the Age of Science, Mathematics, Medics and Literature. And It was at peak of the respective States.
When Japan in the early 20th century self assess their industry and others, they ranked the Americans below the Europeans, and they themselves below America, in only 3 decades after WW2, Japan and the US is already above Europe. That's just how fast time changes.
Asian and African empires fell and British Empire raisen, it didn't mean Africa and Europe entered into the Jungle and became blind like europeans (Middle ages). They simple became poor and couldn't achive technological advancement.
 

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He is completely wrong.
Here the main subject is the Context pf what hhe meant by Garden and Jungle. By garden he didn't meant Beautiful marvelous Wonder. He is using subjective Morality to Claim Superiority than the rest of the world. It's basic white man's racism towards the rest of the world.

You are forgetting that MIDDLE AGE or Dark Age is only European Concept of their strruggle. Africa and Asia had already entered into the Age of Science, Mathematics, Medics and Literature. And It was at peak of the respective States.

Asian and African empires fell and British Empire raisen, it didn't mean Africa and Europe entered into the Jungle and became blind like europeans (Middle ages). They simple became poor and couldn't achive technological advancement.

Racism or not, he is right.

You can walk normally with your friends in a European city of town (even in the ghettos), there are rules of law and authority and a clinic flow of the way of things (trafficlights, shopping times, ATM's, working times etc) and there is a freedom of conversation.

This is not possible in Baghdad, La Paz, Nairobi, Mumbai, Lima, Karachi, Kabul, Kinshasa, Algiers, Calcutta, Mogadishu or Damascus.
 

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Racism or not, he is right.

You can walk normally with your friends in a European city of town (even in the ghettos), there are rules of law and authority and a clinic flow of the way of things (trafficlights, shopping times, ATM's, working times etc) and there is a freedom of conversation.

This is not possible in Baghdad, La Paz, Nairobi, Mumbai, Lima, Karachi, Kabul, Kinshasa, Algiers, Calcutta, Mogadishu or Damascus.
US and French ghettos are much dangerous than peace time Baghdad or Damascus....
 

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Hamas's 'spider web' tunnels in Gaza: 'An underground city'

During the period when Israel was preparing for a ground operation in Gaza, security sources pointed out the difficulty of destroying the Hamas tunnels in the region, which were said to be hundreds of kilometers long.

One of the goals of the military operation launched by Israel against Hamas is to destroy the allegedly hundreds of kilometers long tunnels passing under Gaza.

It is stated that the depth of the tunnels, which a hostage released in Gaza described as a "spider web", is up to 80 meters.

Western and Middle Eastern sources say there are different types of tunnels under the 360 square kilometers of Gaza, including "assault, smuggling, storage and operational burrows."

Israel has invested heavily in tunnel detection, including a sensor-equipped underground barrier it calls an "iron wall"; but could not neutralize Hamas' "tunnels operating to the outside world".

Yehya Al-Sinwar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza, said after the clashes in 2021, "Hamas began to say that they destroyed 100 km of tunnels. The tunnels we have in the Gaza Strip exceed 500 km. Even if what they say is true, only 100 percent of the tunnels are destroyed." They destroyed 20 of them." he said.

Hostage who sees tunnels: Like a spider web

According to Reuters, security analysts accept the existence of hundreds of kilometers of tunnels.

The tunnels are seen as one of several ways for Hamas to "bring weapons, equipment and people" into the region.

"It looked like a spider web, there were many tunnels. We walked for kilometers underground," said 85-year-old Yocheved Lifshitz, a recently released Israeli hostage. said.

Hamas "seeks to gain an advantage over its enemies" by forcing Israeli soldiers to operate underground in cramped areas well known to its fighters.

An Israeli military spokesman said: "I will not give detailed information about the number of kilometers of tunnels, but there are many tunnels built under schools and residential areas." he said.

"Underground city"

Israeli security sources say Israel's heavy aerial bombardments have caused little damage to the tunnel infrastructure.

Former brigadier general Amir Avivi, who was also the deputy commander of the Gaza division tasked with fighting the tunnels among his duties in the Israeli army, said, "Although we have been attacking intensively for days, Hamas's command and control ability, and even its ability to launch counter-attacks, has almost not deteriorated."

"There is a whole city all over Gaza, 40-50 meters deep. There are bunkers, headquarters and warehouses, and of course they are connected to more than a thousand rocket launch positions," Avivi said.

Some sources estimate that the depth of the tunnels is up to 80 meters.

"Egyptian officers are helping"

"They stretch for miles. They're made of concrete and very well made. Think 10 times the size of the Vietcong in Vietnam. They have a lot of money to do this," a Western security source said. said.

Another security source also said that Hamas' tunnels coming from Egypt are still active. "The supply chain is still intact. There are some Egyptian officers in the network that provides coordination. It is not clear whether the Egyptian army is aware of this," the source said.

According to two security sources and a trader in El Arish, Egypt, until recently a small number of "narrower and deeper smuggling tunnels operated between Egypt and Gaza; but after the war began, these activities almost came to a halt." Egyptian officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

When did tunnel construction start?
Hamas is thought to have begun tunneling in the mid-1990s, when Israel granted Yasser Arafat's Palestine Liberation Organization a degree of autonomy in Gaza.

It is stated that digging tunnels became easier after Israel withdrew its soldiers and settlers from Gaza in 2005 and Hamas gained power in the 2006 elections.

At that time, Hamas's military wing, Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, captured Gilad Shalit after digging a 600-meter tunnel to raid the Kerem Shalom base on the Gaza border.

A year later, Hamas used tunnels in Gaza to launch a military offensive against the forces of Mahmoud Abbas, Arafat's successor as FKÖ leader.

Commercial tunnels

It is known that there are commercial tunnels under the Rafah line. These are about one meter wide and use crane engines to transport goods in hollow barrels.

Abu Qusay, one of Rafah tunnel operators, said it takes three to six months to dig a half-mile tunnel and can bring in up to $100,000 a day.

The most profitable product was shells, which were purchased for $1 each in Egypt and brought in more than $6 in Gaza. Qusay noted that Kalashnikov rifles cost $800 in Egypt and are sold for twice that amount on the other side of the border.

Tunnels are difficult to detect

Experts point out the difficulty of locating the tunnels. Geomorphologist and geologist Joel Roskin of Israel's Bar-Ilan University noted that it is difficult to accurately map the tunnel network from the surface or from space. Top secret information is required for 3D mapping and image visualization, Roskin said.

Specialist commandos (Yahalom) from the Israeli Combat Engineering Corps, known as "weasels" and who specialize in finding and destroying tunnels, are on duty.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited Yahalom fighters before the ground operation in Gaza and said, "I trust you, and the Israeli people trust you." said.

"There are lots of booby traps"

Israeli sources state that "they are facing an enemy that has learned from previous operations."

"There will be a lot of booby traps. They have thermobaric weapons, which they don't have in 2021, which are more lethal. I also believe they have acquired a lot of anti-tank weapon systems that will try to hit our armored personnel carriers and tanks," said Amnon Sofrin, former commander of the Combat Intelligence Corps.

Sofrin, who previously served as intelligence director at the Israeli spy agency Mossad, said Hamas would try to kidnap soldiers.

Daphne Richemond-Barak, a professor at Reichman University in Israel and author of the book Underground Warfare, pointed out that "the conflicts in Syria and Iraq have changed the situation."

"What the Israeli army is likely to encounter inside the tunnels is all the experience and knowledge that has been gained by groups like ISIS and transferred to Hamas," Richemond-Barak said.
 

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