Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

[500]

@500 how are the far-right jews right there? I'm more inclined they were the source of this all mess at first (Sheikh Jarrah things).

Far-rights are at rise nowadays, including here in Indonesia. People need to be more chill today instead of angry at each other based on different cultures, traditions and ancestral butt hurts.

Sheikh Jarah is rather pretext. Here real reasons:
1) During 4 years of Trump Hamas was quiet because their dad Quatar was afraid of him. Now they see the opportunity to press Israel and embarrass UAE and Bahrain which made peace with Israel recently (Qatar hates them).
2) On 5 May Israeli president gave mandate to centrist party to form new government without Bibi. Hamas wants Bibi. They brought him to power twice before.
3) Hamas is not happy that elections were cancelled in Palestinian autonomy. Inner rivalry.

 

[schuimpjes]

During 4 years of Trump Hamas was quiet because their dad Quatar was afraid of him.

My first time I heard that Qatar afraid of Trump. Is that because Trump was close with MBZ and the gang?

On 5 May Israeli president gave mandate to centrist party to form new government without Bibi.

Doesn't mean I meddling your internal issues, but I like it. In my view, Bibi is too close with the far-right.

 

[Ryder]

Present event will end soon. Wars in Syria Yemen last for decade.

There was no state of Israel during the WW2.

Founding of Israel itself was a anti semitic project by the Europeans.

Lets give the Jews a state so they can leave our countries for good. European countries like Britain wanted the Jews to leave.

Also the Germans killed a lot of Jews in Europe not to mention setting off ww2. If the Palestinians deserve punishment for what the Germans done. Israel should be set up in Germany because its them who caused this bullshit to begin with.

Seriously the Germans were not punished too much because the next threat was Communism.

 

[mulj]

Lucky shot or drone attack?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1393663925749747718

 

[Vergennes]

@mulj @Bosanski Vojnik

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1393695839772499968

 

[mulj]

@mulj @Bosanski Vojnik

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1393695839772499968

Irrelevant stunt, serbs support israel just to be on opposite side of bosniacs ignoring the fact that israel recognised kosovo, moronic and absurd situation but we have proverb here were logic cease bosnia starts.
Flag of palestine in sarajevo, flag of israel in banjaluka

 

[500]

Founding of Israel itself was a anti semitic project by the Europeans.

Lets give the Jews a state so they can leave our countries for good. European countries like Britain wanted the Jews to leave.

Also the Germans killed a lot of Jews in Europe not to mention setting off ww2. If the Palestinians deserve punishment for what the Germans done. Israel should be set up in Germany because its them who caused this bullshit to begin with.

Seriously the Germans were not punished too much because the next threat was Communism.

First of of all it is just a myth, that Israel was created because of Holocaust. Zionist migration started in 1880 already in Ottoman times. Bu the beginning of WW2 Jews had already de facto state. They had government, transport companies, armed forces, universities... even labor unions and philharmonic orchestra.

Secondly, what kind of punishment are you talking about? Arabs in Israel live much better than in neighbor countries. Look whats going around Israel: Lebanon - failed bankrupt state ruled by armed gangs and mafia. Syria - crazy dictator literally genocides his people. Egypt - super poor country with feudal system where army is a separate ruling caste. Jordan - also very poor country which largely survives thanks to Israel.

 

[Ryder]

First of of all it is just a myth, that Israel was created because of Holocaust. Zionist migration started in 1880 already in Ottoman times. Bu the beginning of WW2 Jews had already de facto state. They had government, transport companies, armed forces, universities... even labor unions and philharmonic orchestra.

Secondly, what kind of punishment are you talking about? Arabs in Israel live much better than in neighbor countries. Look whats going around Israel: Lebanon - failed bankrupt state ruled by armed gangs and mafia. Syria - crazy dictator literally genocides his people. Egypt - super poor country with feudal system where army is a separate ruling caste. Jordan - also very poor country which largely survives thanks to Israel.

Im saying that Europeans did not support Israel out of love.

They just wanted Jews to go.

Eventhough the Ottomans alllowed migration technically does not mean Israel was founded. They allowed Jews to migrate and purchase land in parts of the Levant as long as they paid their taxes.

Ottomans at least knew how to keep the peace by being a stabilising force at least the Jews and Arabs were not killing each other under their patronage.

Honestly I agree with Arab states I mean Syria has killed more of its own people than Israel killing Arabs especially Palestinians. A lot of the dictators in the Arab world are scumbags.

Hopefully something will be worked out but Israel needs to control its settlers. Settlers are causing a lot of trouble. Hamas and various other groups dont make shit any easier i mean a lot of them are just Iranian proxy groups the time Palestine get rid of them the better. Also plo led by Abbas have to go they are dinosaurs.

Seriously the more I learn the more it gets complicated no wonder people try to simplify the conflict.

 

[500]

Lucky shot or drone attack?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1393663925749747718

Neither. Driver's fault. Merkava is OK.

 

[500]

Im saying that Europeans did not support Israel out of love.

They just wanted Jews to go.

Except Britain there was no support. British Jews did not migrate to Palestine.

And even British support was very occasional. Sometimes they supported Jews then supported Arabs.

 

[Ryder]

Except Britain there was no support. British Jews did not migrate to Palestine.

And even British support was very occasional. Sometimes they supported Jews then supported Arabs.

The British did this in cyprus they supported the Greeks then the Turks. It went back and forth.

 

[Bosanski Vojnik]

Typical British divide and conquer strategy

One of the most cunning end evil empires to have existed.

"The Sun never set on the British Empire because God would never trust the British in the Dark" famous saying

 

[Ryder]

Typical British divide and conquer strategy

One of the most cunning end evil empires to have existed.

"The Sun never set on the British Empire because God would never trust the British in the Dark" famous saying

British did not really set up a proper game plan to withdraw they withdrew on haste and left the Arabs and Jews to do their thing.

If everything worked out Israel/Palestine could have worked as an Arab-Jewish confederation.

 

[Bosanski Vojnik]

@mulj @Bosanski Vojnik

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1393695839772499968

Saeb Eraket said a similar thing to a Bosnian TV interview a couple of years ago as Bosnia did not recognize Palestine in a UN General Assembly vote

The Interviewer then had to explain to him Bosnia's tripartite presidency system and that the Serb member of presidency did not allow a motion to recognise Palestine to pass.

Anyway the fact that Prime Minister Netanyahu included the Bosnian flag is going to piss off many Serb radicals and Croat radical separatists in Bosnia who are desperately seeking for someone in the world to hand them at least crumbs of acknowledgement. Bibi Acknowledged the Bosnian flag instead lol

 

[Vergennes]

We didn't call Britain "Perfide Albion" (Perfidious Albion) for nothing....

 

[Vergennes]

I remember in 2014 they posted a similar video.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1393854005273575424

 

[Bosanski Vojnik]

Irrelevant stunt, serbs support israel just to be on opposite side of bosniacs ignoring the fact that israel recognised kosovo, moronic and absurd situation but we have proverb here were logic cease bosnia starts.
Flag of palestine in sarajevo, flag of israel in banjaluka

Serbia traditionally has strong ties with the Arab world. More so than Albania & Bosnia combined despite the religious comminality.

Serbia also backs Palestine yet their little Bosnian Serb proxies support Israel. It's pretty funny actually.

The Serbs in Bosnia are like that annoying next door neighbour who if you paint your house, he has to do the same, if you change your windows, he does the same and so on...

Anyway If I was in charge of Bosnia I would stay neutral. What happens in Israel-Palestine is way outside of our strategic interests. I support the Creation of Palestinian homeland with East Jerusalem as it's capital yet at the same time I dislike the actions of groups like HAMAS and other Iranian/Hezbollah backed militia groups in Gaza and beyond.

 

[mulj]

Serbia traditionally has strong ties with the Arab world. More so than Albania & Bosnia combined despite the religious comminality.

Serbia also backs Palestine yet their little Bosnian Serb proxies support Israel. It's pretty funny actually.

The Serbs in Bosnia are like that annoying next door neighbour who if you paint your house, he has to do the same, if you change your windows, he does the same and so on...

Anyway If I was in charge of Bosnia I would stay neutral. What happens in Israel-Palestine is way outside of our strategic interests. I support the Creation of Palestinian homeland with East Jerusalem as it's capital yet at the same time I dislike the actions of groups like HAMAS and other Iranian/Hezbollah backed militia groups in Gaza and beyond.

You explained it well, no need to further bring our balkan mess into the thread.

 

[Huelague]

First of of all it is just a myth, that Israel was created because of Holocaust. Zionist migration started in 1880 already in Ottoman times. Bu the beginning of WW2 Jews had already de facto state. They had government, transport companies, armed forces, universities... even labor unions and philharmonic orchestra.

Secondly, what kind of punishment are you talking about? Arabs in Israel live much better than in neighbor countries. Look whats going around Israel: Lebanon - failed bankrupt state ruled by armed gangs and mafia. Syria - crazy dictator literally genocides his people. Egypt - super poor country with feudal system where army is a separate ruling caste. Jordan - also very poor country which largely survives thanks to Israel.

You mean Israeli Arabs? And what do you mean with better living? Because they are not afraid to be killed or jailed or tortured, they have a good living in Israel.

 

[Bogeyman]

Dzaferovic, a Bosniak member of the Council of the presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina, reacted to Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's inclusion of the flag of Bosnia and Herzegovina among those who support his country, saying that his country does not support Israel, it will not.

Dzaferovic'ten Netanyahu'ya tepki: Bosna Hersek İsrail'in Gazze'deki masum insanlara yaptığı saldırıları desteklemiyor

Bosna Hersek Devlet Başkanlığı Konseyinin Boşnak üyesi Dzaferovic, İsrail Başbakanı Netanyahu'nun, ülkesine destek verenler arasında Bosna Hersek bayrağına yer vermesine tepki göstererek, ülkesinin İsrail'e destek vermediğini, vermeyeceğini bildirdi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Israeli media: some military officials want Gaza operation halted

According to the Israeli Walla News website, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Benny Gantz apparently agreed to continue the operation against Gaza, while some senior officials in the defense establishment and military said behind closed doors that "what is right now is to end the operation and work for a ceasefire."

The unnamed military officials say Israel is paying the price for continuing the operation and could risk a ground operation that no one wants to enter.

Some defense units in Israel have expressed concern that Hamas will respond unexpectedly to the ground maneuver, while military officials believe that the effectiveness of Israel's attacks (in Gaza) has decreased.

Walla News also reported that Hamas entered the conflict with about 14 thousand rockets, which allowed them to fire rockets for about 60 days.

"Mohammed ed-Dayf, the commander of Hamas' military wing, managed to come up with a new equation against Israel after he decided to launch rockets into every area within reach across the country, " the news said, adding that Israel was concerned about losing legitimacy in the future because it attacked the Gaza Strip."they were used.

"Because of U.S. pressure, Israel renegotiates Gaza ceasefire"

The Times of Israel reported that the Washington administration, especially US President Joe Biden, had expressed concern to Israel about civilian casualties in attacks on Gaza.

The report said U.S. officials had called on Israel to end attacks on Gaza.

Speaking to Walla news before today's security cabinet meeting, where attacks on Gaza will be discussed, an unnamed senior Israeli official said that due to international pressure and calls from the United States, the Tel Aviv administration will begin the process of reaching a ceasefire.

He said Egypt would play an intermediate role between Israel and Palestinian resistance groups in Gaza in order to reach a decommissioning.

Biden had spoken by phone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu twice since May 10, one of them yesterday.

Netanyahu said yesterday that attacks on Gaza would continue.

Israel's attacks on Gaza have killed 174 Palestinians, 47 of them children and 29 of them women.

İsrail basını: Bazı askeri yetkililer, Gazze'ye yönelik operasyonun durdurulmasını istiyor

İsrail ordusundaki bazı üst düzey askeri yetkililerin, abluka altındaki Gazze Şeridi'ne yönelik askeri operasyonun durdurulmasını ve ateşkes yapılmasını istediği belirtiliyor. - Anadolu Ajansı

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